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Staylo: The problem with taking Bush out of the equation is Kerry himself. I still have not heard adequate plans from Kerry for either carrying on this war or scaling it back. In ways, Kerry is a larger problem than Bush because while he says there's a problem with the current administration, he offers no tangible solutions.
BRJ is on to something. If we were at all concerned with true nation building, we'd look into Sudan. It's got everything going for it and us in the way of making the U.S. look like superheroes. 1) The country is poor and starving. 2) It's being raped by Islamic fundamentalists. 3) To my knowledge it has no oil, though I could be wrong. If we were to save a country like that, the world would love us. This just shows, one needs to be prudent when selecting their crusades. |
Why doesn't Iraq hold a vote that decided whether we stay or go? Set up booth on every corner and let the people decide. The news makes it seems like they want us to leave but I believe its a scewed view.
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My point is, why do we need to look any further than Afghanistan as a model. We supposedly started the job, why not finish it properly? Why couldn't that set an example in a key region that has needed stabilization for decades? No resources to be gained, and an honset good faith attempt to do the right thing. Or is that the problem? As for Kerry, I can't really argue with you there except that American's themselves changing their leadership sends the world a message that we as a country really do care about these issues and want to do the right thing. That could be achieved by Kerry or Carrotop, but not by Bush at this point. You love him or hate him, thats the way the world feels, not just us. Sad that it has come to that. |
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We should be concentrating on the home front and supporting the UN since we are to blame the most for its ineffectual existence. If we, the most powerful nation in the world ignore the UN (among other things we've started ignoring since GWB took office) who are we to cast stones if some other country like N. Korea ignores them as well? |
Mikester: well put.
The notion that we are the 'biggest and baddest' and don't need the support or agreement of any other country may well result in us fighting wars on multiple fronts. |
"Nuke 'em" is losing
Still, 42% say nuke 'em.
So future terrorists like these will never have a chance... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1084666871.jpg |
Yeah, I agree with ya there. . .GW certainly has given those children a big sigh of relief. They just may have a reasonable future, yet.
Well, unless the muslim extremist get there way. . .then those girl will get to enjoy the status of uneducated "breeding stock" -wow, what a future. :rolleyes: |
island911, I agree with you. They say over 85% of Afghanistan is still under local Taliban-like rule so the future for young girls there isn't too bright.
Let's hope our help nudges them forward. |
I don't know how many of you are familiar with Randy Newman's early work.
He described this as "a pinhead's view of the world" Political Science by Randy Newman No one likes us-I don't know why We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try But all around, even our old friends put us down Let's drop the big one and see what happens We give them money-but are they grateful? No, they're spiteful and they're hateful They don't respect us-so let's surprise them We'll drop the big one and pulverize them Asia's crowded and Europe's too old Africa is far too hot And Canada's too cold And South America stole our name Let's drop the big one There'll be no one left to blame us We'll save Australia Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo We'll build an All American amusement park there They got surfin', too Boom goes London and boom Paree More room for you and more room for me And every city the whole world round Will just be another American town Oh, how peaceful it will be We'll set everybody free You'll wear a Japanese kimono And there'll be Italian shoes for me They all hate us anyhow So let's drop the big one now Let's drop the big one now |
After you heard the rest...hear the best...and now heres what Tabby says.....Process them all through interment camps...to the right give them a job cleaning up the place to the left a nice hot shower that refreshes....ahhhh
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