1 shirker, 2 cowards, numerous thugs

[Kevin Powers]

the shirker. the weasle's military record is still in question.

coward #1. rumfeld- got his deferment. why? has no problem sending others to their deaths.

coward#2. chenney. scum/douche bag delux. mutiple deferments. why? seems to enjoy sending others to their deaths while he cowardly avoided HIS obligation. he has no problem exposing a cia agent due to political anger. i wish the punk would have a stroke. j wilson should be able to call the fat little f**k out of the executive building and give him the a** kicking he deserves. chenney should be tried for treason due exposing an operative.

the thugs. the ill trained mps. you can't tell me ANYONE believes the photos, videos are fake and the depositions are lies. they should be tried in an iraqi court and be suject to islamic justice. these animals/muderers/ kidnappers (the mps) are morally deficient. 1 year in jail and a bcd. not a dishonorable discharge, just bad conduct. shame.

now discharged veterans who are still in the "8 year " commitment phase can be called up. how about that flintstone? are your children cleared of their "commitment?

let us see both of the weasle's daughters enlist. TOMORROW, and let them be sent to iraq. they can drive truck or even violate prisoners with light sticks, fondle their penis', or watch them jack off.

if these jackals aren't sent packing, we are doomed.

kevin

ps berg. the fool paid $$ to walk into a burning building looking for a "job". tough s**t. he paid the price for his stupidity. i couldn't care less

[SteveStromberg]

What are you talking about? Here is from Rumsfeld's Bio

Mr. Rumsfeld attended Princeton University on academic and NROTC scholarships (A.B., 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. In 1957, he transferred to the Ready Reserve and continued his Naval service in flying and administrative assignments as a drilling reservist until 1975. He transferred to the Standby Reserve when he became Secretary of Defense in 1975 and to the Retired Reserve with the rank of Captain in 1989.

What is you Miltary record?

[Bleyseng]

Kevin was in the Army and has a son going to Iraq.

and your service record Steve?

[tabs]

Originally posted by Kevin Powers

the thugs. the ill trained mps. you can't tell me ANYONE believes the photos, videos are fake and the depositions are lies. they should be tried in an iraqi court and be suject to islamic justice. these animals/muderers/ kidnappers (the mps) are morally deficient. 1 year in jail and a bcd. not a dishonorable discharge, just bad conduct. shame.

Your opinion is yur opinion, and I don't care to discuss it with you.

However you bring up the something I have wanted to address for awhile now. Those MP's just didn't happen to do what they did from reading the comics. They saw how MI interrogates it's prisoners and mimiced them.

When 911 took place I felt that the USA was going to send out Death Squads to take care of business...either we were going to do it ourselves or we would contract it out to other foreign security services.....this latest prisoner scandal is just the tip of the iceberg for what being done in the name of the American people.

Now the question is why would the USA resort to those means, unless it's survival was at stake. I guess what I keep harping on is the fact that Terrorism can bring the USA down and with it our way of life. So before U all start btching at our methods, U better be prepared to give up all those little niceitys you enjoy like your TV, Refrigerator and washing machine...What do you think it takes to keep our life style going....a pat on the head? Nice Terrorist, please tell us your plans..

[techweenie]

Kevin:

I thought I posted this before, but in case I didn't, there are a couple of links that are worth seeing:

http://www.chickenhawkcards.com/

http://www.symbolman.com/chickenhawks.html

[fintstone]

Originally posted by Bleyseng
Kevin was in the Army and has a son going to Iraq.
and your service record Steve?

Why would that matter? Does that mean he cannot correct outright lies intended to demean the service of a veteran?

I imagine I have served longer than either of you and also have a child in the reserve...does that mean you should not respond to my post...if I ever happen to post something incorrect?

If the democrats had a platform or candidate with anything to offer...they would not need to stoop to lying about people in the other party as a campaign tactic.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by techweenie
Kevin:

I thought I posted this before, but in case I didn't, there are a couple of links that are worth seeing:

http://www.chickenhawkcards.com/

http://www.symbolman.com/chickenhawks.html

Yes you have posted it before. Do you get some kind of cut on the sale of these "chickenhawk cards?" Only a democrat would make flashcards to distribute so they can all remember to tell the same propaganda/lies. Heaven forbid thinking for onesself. I guess when you deal with the knuckledragging constituency....ya gots ta do what ya gots ta do.

[Kevin Powers]

length of service is a career choise. not a bage to wear. we both served i chose not to be a 20 year service person.the elusive military intelligence, a classic joke while i was on active duty. so those higher on the food chain are responsible. the TOP of the food chain! the following by example is a pretty weak excuse. i'll retract on the rumsfeld sevice issue but i stand tall on my other assertions. i do resent your labeling of those of us with differing opinions as "democrats". i'm an american. if your reservist son is deployed i sincerely hope that he comes home safe in body and spirit. you are edging towards insults and inflamitory name calling. something easily done when not standing toe to toe. "knuckledragging"? are you implying we are of simian decent? curbing your enthusiasim might be your best choise of action.

my military record? dec 19 1971 to sept 19 1974 and i enlisted steve. 52D20 on the east german border. i made sure the backup generators for nike missiles with nuclear heads were ready to go. they kept the red horde at bay so you could sit on your surf board waiting for some tasty breakers.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by Kevin Powers
length of service is a career choise. not a bage to wear. we both served i chose not to be a 20 year service person.the elusive military intelligence, a classic joke while i was on active duty. so those higher on the food chain are responsible. the TOP of the food chain! the following by example is a pretty weak excuse. i'll retract on the rumsfeld sevice issue but i stand tall on my other assertions. i do resent your labeling of those of us with differing opinions as "democrats". i'm an american. if your reservist son is deployed i sincerely hope that he comes home safe in body and spirit. you are edging towards insults and inflamitory name calling. something easily done when not standing toe to toe. "knuckledragging"? are you implying we are of simian decent? curbing your enthusiasim might be your best choise of action.

my military record? dec 19 1971 to sept 19 1974 and i enlisted steve. 52D20 on the east german border. i made sure the backup generators for nike missiles with nuclear heads were ready to go. they kept the red horde at bay so you could sit on your surf board waiting for some tasty breakers.

Pesonally, I think whether you or I served or not does not mean anything regarding the current situation. That was my point.

I originally enlisted as an E-1 and spent my time in Germany as well. I personally could care less if your length of service was more or less. We all make our own choices. No, my reservist daughter is not deployed except for training this summer. as for me, I have personally applied to return to service as my field is a shortage and I have been requested by name. It takes quite a while for approval, so I am waiting.

I did not call you a democrat. I agree that that would be an insult....but if you are not, your posted opinions seem to match theirs on most issues.

If you reread my posts, you will note that I did not call you or anyone posting on this thread any names...nor did I insult them...but I certainly do not appreciate your posting easily exposed lies regarding other people's military records. Apparently, by your "retraction" you were mistaken....but it was still unfair and slander to post it without first researching it.

[pwd72s]

Uh, Kevin? I think you lost this one. Am I weird? I have this sense that I read anti-Bush propaganda on nearly every board I visit these days. What? Out of the DNC? By the way, before anybody asks...I flunked the Army physical back in 1964. Does this mean I don't have the "right" to be critical of our military if it screws up? Does this mean I can't say "thank you" to them as well? Guys who currenty serve? THANKS! Guys who served in the past? Again, THANKS! The sad thing? Your service has always been used to make political points.

[Kevin Powers]

you "personally could care less"? so you do care about my length of service. perhaps you mean "could not care less". i hope you and your daughter come home safe. i can't hardly wait to hear what our fearless leader has to say on monday. fearless leader? i'm sorry again. that was rocky and bullwinkle.