Was the quote posted in it's entirety?

Usually the editing of the quote is what causes the problem.

Some people here run with things they made up, or postulated about you, and then crucify you for something they themselves said about you.

The quote function should not allow any editing.

I have seen a similar BBS interface that doesn't allow quote editing.

Maybe Wayne should be talking to you!

It's only pudding? Thank God!

Yes, Lynn, I would have a problem with that. Not to wander too far here, but it seems like a lot of what the BUSH LIED!!!! crowd b!tches about stems from similar, frequently deliberate, misattribution and subsequent "running with it" once "everybody knows" he said XYZ when he didn't.

Frankly, though I've got a problem w/ it even when my favorite targets are misquoted. If you're going to pillory someone, it's incumbent upon you to be as straight-up w/ the facts as possible. OK, I'm done.

JP

I concur, and said as much in the other thread (where said crime was being committed most recently). Misquoting someone is a complete failure of integrity, demonstrates no moral courage, and is just wrong. In order to have useful and productive discussions, we need to retain some semblance of order, and basic integrity is critical to that.

(Misunderstanding -- that's a different crime. Sometimes people are just terrible writers, and someone on the other end is less literate... differently literate? Whatever, incapable of taking the same ideas out of a piece of text than the author put in. That's just miscommunication, which is different entirely.)

But misquoting, blatent misattribution, etc. -- yeah, that's wrong.

Dan

Dan,

I wasn't even aware it was possible until I looked closely at this thread. I wasn't even getting it on the other thread.

I don't keep track of who lacks the moral courage in here.

There are some that have pudding for brains, but that can usually be ascribed to upbringing and parental heritage. In one case, I think it is because the poor SOB lives downwind of open-air chem warfare experiments at McDill AFB.

From now on, I'll just assume that we all lack moral courage.

Software glitches and Clinton's national hallway example to our children allow us all to live down to his standards.

I will be watching all of you criminals more closely from now on....

Still checking for chocolate pudding as we speak... Michael.

To chime in here...I don't need to misquote anybody here, I can rip you where ever you stand.

I think U found me out.....actually Lynn you touched me and not in a gay kinda way either with your comments the other day.... An R Gruppe member sees through the bluster...and sees whats behind the curtain..

Sing, I wouldn't have figured you for someone to blame integrity failures on external causes -- I was placing it as a personal responsibility item. (shrug) Makes no difference, it ain't right.

Dan

Dan!

I agree wholeheartedly.

The Clinton reference is what young people use these days as a reference. Have heard this personally more than once to excuse some inexcuseable behavior.

you mean like this?

:D:D:D

(the statements above were edited for humor and should not be attributed to those to whom they are, well, attributed :D )

I wonder if this will make it past the censor
 

You mean you can attribute any kind of statement made by a person regardless if he/she said it or not? Like this....

Re: I wonder if this will make it past the censor
 

tabs!! just what are you trying to say?? :eek:

:D

Oh geez I think I found a new device to get my point across.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Ok -
Here's my $0.42:
If you are going to quote someone, keep it clear and simple. Don't leave room for mis-interpretation, and don't quote people falsely.

HOWEVER, If someone quotes you out of context, don't have a cow - you can respond to their post by posting what you truly meant in your statement that was quoted. But don't let it turn into a pissing match.

We are adults here - let's act like it!

Now can we just move along and continue with the never-ending political mud-slinging? That's almost more enjoyable than bickering over who quoted what and how... :rolleyes:
-Z-man.

Lynn, I don't know if Z-man truly understands what is happening. I didn't until I had it happen to me.

Perhaps we should illustrate.............

Hm .... What can I do with this?

How's that for some healthy misattribution? That's only slightly misquoted, right? :)


Dan

I get the point, Dan. BTW: Dog feces is an excellent source of nutrients for your lawn. At least, that's why I suspect my neighbors are determined to leave their Fido's poop on my lawn! :eek:

This is "who's quoting what" thing is getting out of hand. I believe everyone needs to just take a step back and chill out a little. This is the OT forums at Pelican Parts, for crying out loud! This is the internet! Contrary to popular belief, not everything you see and read in the WWW is truth!

This quoting thing is being done in threads where politics are disucssed. Politicians are crooked, right? Well, I suppose people get a little crooked as well when they discuss politics!

I suspect that most people here know your views, Lynn, and as such are aware that people using your name in a quote that you didn't make KNOW that it's not you posting stuff like that. I think the whole thing started off as a little joke and snowballed into this. There are far worse things that we can all worry about than what's being quoted here. Just let it go. Laugh it off: don't take it so seriously.

Now back to your regularly scheduled political mud-slinging...

When are the elections over again!?!? :rolleyes:

-Zoltan.

Lynn, all I can say is be vigilant. if someone misquotes you or, worse yet as in your example, downright lies and makes stuff up, don't be afraid to get in there and straighten them out. I will say that this forum is not the be-all-to-end-all repository of important political writings, so if you get quoted out of context, plagiarized, or mis-attributed (to coin a new phrase) I'm sure it won't make the evening news. analysis: your political career is safe

now what's that I saw you writing about my momma!!! :D

This Works....
 

I keep repeating this over and over, and it is not helping.




Dan!

I DO understand how this happens, haha.

And I think the fleas of a thousand camels was a little over the top. Maybe just a few fleas.

Z-Man.... We luv ya!

Maybe you could get the quote thing fixed so no editing is possible.

As I have said, I may follow Lynn. You guys who like this kind of stuff can stay, and beat your chests about how you kicked the asses of some liberals. I think that discussions of public policy are ENORMOUSLY important to our national community, and I have a strong personal love for exchanging views with thoughtful people whose opinions are not the same as mine.

But that's not a description of what's happening here.

Lynn -
I don't think you and I could agree on the color of the sky... but our differences are the fuel for these threads. I think you should take some time out and cool off and come back when you realize that every adversary here is not an "enemy" but some folks are just pinheads that you have to ignore or take cum grano.

Failing that, farewell.

JP

Re: Might Makes Right
 

I want to throw a tantrum right here...I am offended and shocked. My panties are all bunched up in the crack of my you know what, and it is very very very uncomfortable...This as a result irritates me to the point of near tears and makes me want to lash out and discredit anyone who disagrees with me...My disagreement will have no validity or substance it will just take the form of hysterical kicking and screaming, I will turn red and grab my ball and go home and pout.

I am launching a formal complaint with Z-man, if that doesn't work I will go all the way to the leftist thought police (the same ones who instituted hate crimes) and I will surely be beaten to a pulp...So, on second thought, I will just have a tantrum, ya, so nah nah, na nahh nahh...




p.s...I will also stick my tongue out at Porsche's that I pass and honk at them and flip them the Byrd..............so there!








SmileWavy

I made the mistake of clicking here to see what Mul had to say. I'll never get that 30 seconds back. My bad.

Re: Re: Might Makes Right
 

I dunno...


All I see is:


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Posted by Mulholland:

THIS POSTER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR MAKING A FOOL OF HIMSELF

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I know he is probably doing something stupid again, but at least I don't have to witness it.

I'd much rather have idiots like that go away rather than Lynn'sABC leave because of the childish moronic behavior.

I suspect that being banned on several other lists makes these idiots come here until they get thrown off. The ultimate troll challenge.

Zman? How much longer is this going to be allowed to continue?

Dude, I really didn't mean anything personal or malicious...Just not my style brother...I just play hard.

I hope you reconsider. SmileWavy

Lynn, I'm with Supe on this one. I really enjoy the perspective and experience that you (insert dirty word) liberals bring to the board. I hope you won't give up on the rest of us because of some troll.

(sigh)

/mourns the loss of a good Pelican.


Dan

Mul.

We ALL appreciate that you can play hard.

Could you lighten it up just a little? Pluuuhhhheeeeassseeee?

Take a deep breath and don't go personal.

I find that I wait until noon (after the Starbucks has worn off a little) until I reply to something inflammatory.

I will be more mindful...However, I reserve the right under obvious and blatant misunderrepresentation strategery of political ideology or truth, to break out the double-barrel and take some varments out. :D...Nookular

I have been in bulletin boards/chat rooms for over ten years, and watched some good ones go away after someone(s) commandeer them. One of them, we tried to set up a separate place to chat, but the trolls found us. I met a lot of great folks along the way, got invited to drive a Cobra replica and things like that but the only contact we now have is an occasional e-mail or instant message. If this happens here, it will be unfortunate, but it looks more and more likely with each passing day.

There are some people who are not content until they poison every watering hole.

Like I said before boyz I don't need to misquote you, you make big enough fools outa yourselves just by what you say...

See MUll thats how it's done..and that is FAR MORE EFFECTIVE in the long run.

"He betrayed this country!, He played on our fears. He took America on an ill-conceived foreign adventure dangerous to our troops, an adventure preordained and planned before 9/11 ever took place." -- Al Gore

"The American people were told Saddam Hussein was building nuclear weapons. He was not. We were told he had stockpiles of other weapons of mass destruction. He did not. We were told he was involved in 9/11. He was not. We were told Iraq was attracting terrorists from Al Qaeda. It was not. We were told our soldiers would be viewed as liberators. They are not. We were told Iraq could pay for its own reconstruction. It cannot. We were told the war would make America safer. It has not.

Before the war, week after week after week after week, we were told lie after lie after lie after lie." -- Ted Kennedy (LIAR)



I couldn't agree more Money, I couldn't agree more.

OK so what is your POV...I don't need to know what Gores is....what thoughts belong to you....what is in your head that makes you unique?

Are you empty, are you shallow, are you cynical or doyou have ideas, creativity and inspiration...

OK MUll, your point is clearer now that U have added a few more quotes.

One point...It is hard to seperate what politicians truly believe from their political agenda...in other words what bit of information or truth are they using to gain political advantage?

On one hand Al Gore is perceived to be politically foolish and on the other Teddy Kennedy a political pimp.

I don't seek to validate myself, I seek to inform with accurate reporting to allow people to see the abject emptiness of the Democrat platform and strategery...If you are asking what my thoughts are (as opposed to your question being rhetorical), I will reveal it in what I report...It is way too cumbersome to strike out on a discourse following each point I intend to make. Brevity is the soul of wit after all.

I completely agree with you that the Democratic party is BK morally and intellectually...they are still stuck back with New Deal ideology. Times have changed, people have moved on and recognize how BK the Democartic party is, and thats why they are outa power. They are absolutely desperate to regain their position at the trough...thats why they are leaning so far to the left this time out with Kerry. Further I believe it was a done deal among the power brokers in the Democratic Party that Dean wasn't going to be the horse they were going to bet on. Look where the power shifted to after 2002....radical left....Nancy Pellossi, Teddy Kennedy wing of the party...Kerry is BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY Teddy....(the moderate Clinton wing failed in 2000 and 2002 to get the votes).

Validation huh? OK....I'll take it....good one....Sometimes by just reporting it is hard to know if you agree or disagree with the quotee. As an aside when I have a problem I consult with my friends, I generally know what each one is going to say...yet what I want to know is the reasoning...the why of their position. What do they see that I might not. Thats INFORMATIVE. Now with regards to Brevity..yup can't say enough about the one liner to the heart....but sometimes it needs setting up.

One other thing bout me...when I write something I know there are 3 positions or responses that can be made to me...I know what my response is going to be to each of those positions before I post.