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lendaddy 07-13-2004 07:02 AM

Moses, can I get some advice?
 
Moses, I just want some general advice here. I believe I seperated a couple bones in my wrist. It was hurting from golf, and last night in softball I took a bg swing and felt the outside bones jest below the "knob" on the outside of my wrist separate. It is pretty painful and there is no way I can golf or what ever as the pain is too much when I use it. Is this one of those "take it easy and it'll slowely get better deals, or should I go in for a cotisone shot or something. I am 90% sure it is separted, I could really feel it "open up" if you will. Is there anything I can do to speed up the healing? Thanks in advance.

lendaddy 07-13-2004 10:22 AM

Bump for Moses and anyone else that may be able to chime in.

Anyone ever have this injury? How long was recovery? Did anything help your recovery? I have some BIG golf outings and tournaments coming up and would hate to miss them if I can help it. How about taping of the wrist? Is there any specific method of taping or a brace that might help? This sucks for my plans, and will try anything at this point. Thanks.

dd74 07-13-2004 10:25 AM

Hey Len: I've never heard of wrists separating. Shoulders, sure, but those get "popped" back in.

Jeez....I'd consider just going on to the hospital. Reading your description had me squirming.

lendaddy 07-13-2004 10:36 AM

I thought anything with a ligament can separate, who knows. It really felt like the joint "opened up". There is no redness and just a little puffiness in the area which is wierd, I would expect more. I probably should go to the doctor, but I am weird that way. Stupid I know. If I thought he would give me a shot of steroids or something in there I would definitelty go.

lendaddy 07-13-2004 11:19 AM

It's not a wuss thing:) It's a time/convenience thing. I HATE rotting in the waiting room with idiots. "man I hope they give me disability, I want to go camping this weekend" Puke! "little Johnny has a cold, have they come up with a cure yet"? Puke!

304065 07-13-2004 11:39 AM

Quote:

probably should go to the doctor, but I am weird that way
What? Are you serious?

Get your butt to your primary care physician's office and bring along with you the current issue of National Review.

Maybe if you're lucky there will be an attracive pharmaceutical detailing rep in the office that day.

Moses already stuck his neck out here and would be entirely justified in not wishing to do so again.

Seriously, have it looked at by a professional in your area, your health is nothing to procrastinate over.

lendaddy 07-13-2004 11:45 AM

I hear ya, I know better. As far as Moses, I wasn't asking for a diagnosis, I already managed that myself:) I was just asking a general question regarding the care and recover times for such injuries. I do see your point however which is why I never said anything like "come on Moses help a brother out:)" as I understand his position. Heck the ribbing from you guys telling me to have it looked at was worth the post.

Aurel 07-13-2004 11:50 AM

Why is it that people take better care of their porsche than their health ?
I bet you most of us on this board spend more on P-car parts than on doctors. Bad...

Aurel

dd74 07-13-2004 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aurel
Why is it that people take better care of their porsche than their health ?
I bet you most of us on this board spend more on P-car parts than on doctors. Bad...

Aurel

If that's the case, then you should be a gorgeous and fit speciman of a man... :rolleyes:

JonT 07-13-2004 12:57 PM

here's what the doctor will tell you which is the same for any muscle/joint sprain--ibuprofen 800-1000mg a couple times a day and ice, immobilize it, and rest. tape it when you play to reduce the range of motion. I'm not a doctor but have had plenty of athletic injuries over the years and this is the basic treatment

tabs 07-13-2004 01:09 PM

Does anyone know a Good malpractice attorney?

YA CheAP bAST@RD, SPEND THE $1.98 AND THE md WILL BE able to answere all your questons....

tabs 07-13-2004 01:12 PM

Otherwise I got a nice BIG KNIFE that I got from a Jihady and we can cut that hand right off. Only thing is though once it's gone you won't be able to make the flag pole stand and salute anymore.

BlueSkyJaunte 07-13-2004 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aurel
Why is it that people take better care of their porsche than their health ?
I bet you most of us on this board spend more on P-car parts than on doctors. Bad...

Aurel

LOL, hope you wear a K&N filter over your nose in that fresh NJ air....

lendaddy 07-13-2004 01:54 PM

I do agree with Jon on the Ibuprofen. Seems that's all the rage:)
Tabdula the magnificent, I appreciate your offer to dismember me, but I use that hand probably more than a married man should, so the loss would be unbearable.

Mulholland 07-13-2004 02:21 PM

Re: Moses, can I get some advice?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
the outside bones jest below the "knob" on the outside of my wrist separate.
I am relatively well versed in procedure, len. I am not sure what outside bones you are talking about. What do you mean "outside bones"?...Outside forearm is the radius, outside hand are the carpals metacarpals and phalanges.

http://www.scoi.com/images/scoi-hand-main.jpg

That said, treatment will be conservative. Nonsurgical. Steroids if acute and chronic. It may be a slight dislocation so you could try to relocate what you think is out of place. Wrap it in an Ace wrap, take some non-steroidal anti-inflammatories and rest it. Do some range-of-motion exercises while it heals...But don't exacerbate the problem...LET IT HEAL.

My 2 cents.

Mulholland 07-13-2004 02:23 PM

or it may be elephantitis...I would recommend a clitorectomy if so.

tabs 07-13-2004 03:12 PM

Let's give a big hand of THANKS to all the qualified medical advice given here today.....

Mull on your diagram of the hand and it's bones exactly where is the Clit? I don't see it labeled anywhere?

In other words go to a real MD, and get his opinion the hand you save maybe your own. ...why mess around.

dd74 07-13-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tabs
Let's give a big hand of THANKS to all the qualified medical advice given here today.....

Mull on your diagram of the hand and it's bones exactly where is the Clit? I don't see it labeled anywhere?

In other words go to a real MD, and get his opinion the hand you save maybe your own. ...why mess around.

Hilarious! :D

Moses 07-13-2004 03:40 PM

Sorry! Not dodging advice-giving, I've been in Yosemite with the family for two days. Beautiful.

Anyway, a wrist separation is a bit unusual, but ligament strains and tears are pretty common. The carpal and hamate bones break pretty easily.

If it were me, I'd have an X-ray. A non-displaced fracture needs to be immobilized. A displaced fracture will need to be pinned. A ligament strain will get better with time, NSAIDs, ice and wrapping. A ligament tear will improve VERY slowly and might need to be fixed. If you have a dislocation, an X-ray will help make the diagnosis.

If you have numbness in your fingers of loss of motion, get to the E.R. right away. Good luck!

Moses 07-13-2004 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by john_cramer

Moses already stuck his neck out here and would be entirely justified in not wishing to do so again.


Having evaded the clutches of the evil P.I. lawyers so far, I am probably more forthcoming with advice than I ought to be! ;)

Mark Wilson 07-13-2004 03:52 PM

Moses, It hoits when I do this......

Moses 07-13-2004 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Wilson
Moses, It hoits when I do this......
Funny, most of the ailments on this BBS appear to be the result of excessive masturbation. Go figure.

vash 07-13-2004 05:10 PM

haha, you dont talk like a doctor!

on the plus side, we cant stand before a judge and say, "we call him moses!"
when the judge ask us your real name, "errrr?"

Mark Wilson 07-13-2004 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moses
Funny, most of the ailments on this BBS appear to be the result of excessive masturbation. Go figure.
And what, Good Doktor, do you consider excessive?http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat3.gif

Moses 07-13-2004 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Mark Wilson
And what, Good Doktor, do you consider excessive?http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat3.gif
Reminds me of the old adage that most doctors think an alcoholic is anyone who drinks more than they do...

lendaddy 07-13-2004 06:46 PM

Thanks guys! There is no numbness, etc.. I am SURE I am mis-stating the clinical term for what happened. All I can say is that I felt a definite seperation in the area I defined below (thanks mul for the pic.) It was obvious to me that this area "opened up". It does not hurt at all just existing, but it does hurt when I wash my hands if that makes it any more clear. Below is the modified pic and the affected area. Again, I just want to say to Moses I wasn't pushing you for a response or demanding an answer, I respect your awkward position here. Thanks!




http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1089773198.jpg

lendaddy 07-13-2004 06:52 PM

lol, just saw the second page here after my last reply. My masturbation inuendo sure spurred some activity:) Soon we'll see a whole thread on "punchin the clown":)

Moses 07-13-2004 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
Again, I just want to say to Moses I wasn't pushing you for a response
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Never a problem. If I feel like I'm over my head I'll be the first to let you know. Besides, the endlessly patient gearheads at Pelican suffered through hundreds of my stoopid questions when I did the 3.6 thing.

Mulholland 07-13-2004 06:56 PM

I doubt, without trauma, it is a fracture. Just go get an x-ray, approximately $70 bucks, if you want the peace of mind.

lendaddy 07-13-2004 06:59 PM

Yea, I will Mul, I had to do pictures with my boy tonight(lil guys a ham at 7 months), but I'll try tomorrow. I really wish you could make appointments!

lendaddy 07-13-2004 07:06 PM

Ok, I doubt it matters, but I modified the pic a little after thinking. If the red line to the right points to what is perceived as the "bump" on the outside of your wrist, then the line to the left is where the separation occured. If not then the first pic I posted is correct. Moses, what part of this diagram is the "bump"?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1089774405.jpg

Moses 07-13-2004 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
Ok, I doubt it matters, but I modified the pic a little after thinking. If the red line to the right points to what is perceived as the "bump" on the outside of your wrist, then the line to the left is where the separation occured. If not then the first pic I posted is correct. Moses, what part of this diagram is the "bump"?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1089774405.jpg

The first bump (lateral) is the distal ulna. Go 2 cm distal and medial and you feel the lunate bone. The hamate has a small projection that is frequently broken. Common baseball injury.

http://www.gwc.maricopa.edu/class/bio201/hand/awrist.htm

Mulholland 07-13-2004 07:34 PM

http://www.med.uwo.ca/ume/radiology/...one2/fig2a.gif Apparently carpus dislocation are uncommon

Mulholland 07-13-2004 07:37 PM

http://www.ivy-rose.co.uk/Topics/Ske...xology/Arm.gif


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