What is your expectation of privacy in public? - Page 2

island911 · 04:52 PM

" . . . but don't LIKE the idea of LEOs watching/taping."

Do LEOs do this more than Sagittarius'?

(What's a LEO?). . .Law Enforcement Orgy?

djmcmath · 07-19-2004, 05:40 PM

I think that's exactly right -- I understand the legality of having all of my public actions recorded, but it somehow bothers me. I also suspect that the sheep (American public) will be generally nonplussed about the whole thing. Sheep will be malcontent for a while, until some big story comes out a few months down the road where facial recognition and full-time monitoring proved vital to stopping some huge crime. Sheep will then be happy with this wonderful new system that makes them all safer.

(shrug) FWIW, comparing sitting by the side of the road with a radar detector to constant monitoring of public spaces was first done by an earlier poster; I recognize they're very different, but carry some similarities, legally, don't they?

Dan

304065 · 07-19-2004, 06:53 PM

On the whole side of the road thing, well, when you get a drivers license, you are consenting to abide by the rules of the road, right? You agree that you will operate the vehicle on public roads in accordance with the traffic ordinances. Now, law enforcement has to have some way of measuring you, and they do that by clocking the traffic. Any reasonable expectation that you may have of being free of such surveiliance is eliminated by the sign, when you enter the political division (city, town etc.) "Speed Monitored with Radar."

Why else would they go to the expense of putting up that sign, other than to warn you that you are under surveilance with Radar, PC or no?

So the "side of the road" scenario actually has a stronger basis IMHO.

djmcmath · 07-19-2004, 08:37 PM

John, I can't say that I disagree -- I'm really asking the question with regards to TechWeenie's post from page 1. I was always under the impression that operating radar continuously was legal. I also thought a cop could wear cammies and low crawl to a position overlooking a stretch of road to shoot at traffic from, so as to be totally invisible, but someone said that that sort of thing falls into some other weird category of not quite legal in some states. Traffic laws don't make sense to me, I guess.

Dan

Burnin' oil · 07-20-2004, 08:36 AM

I recently read a story in an Oregon paper that the State was considering placing a GPS system in all vehicles to monitor the number of miles each vehicle travels. A State legislator was concerned about the effect fuel efficient vehicles would have on gas tax revenues and proposed a mileage tax based upon the miles driven in the State. Nice.

911ctS · 07-20-2004, 08:58 AM

I agree with the fact that technology will eventually invade our so called privacy. But then how much privacy do you have in public places anyway. So many humans around these days that, in a big city, where are you to get "privacy"? pretty much only your own home I guess. We are just pawns in a big game of political chess. The more I realize that the more irritated I get. Probably for the reason that I dont see this "trend" going in a positive direction, nor do I see this country going in that direction either. Anyway enough of that ramble. If they did have cameras around, guaranteed I have a few public urination citations under my belt.

On relevent subject; the new OBD III is supposed to contain data logers that can notify the gov. at anytime you vehicle exceeds the speed limit. Thus in turn processing you a speeding ticket either by mail, or next time you take your car in for smog... guess what. You'll have to pay up!!

mikester · 07-20-2004, 10:51 AM

How reasonable is it to expect me to be comfortable with someone constantly watching me?

I don't want to be on a reality show for law enforcement.

Recording my movements "just in case" isn't a valid reason for the government to do so in a public place. We own it, not them. They manage it for us. We tell them what is right and this is not. Seriously, it's the common folk that loose us our liberty in that that they don't see the trail of liberty being removed from us slowly but surely.

We're special here because we think - the common American we are not.