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island911 08-06-2004 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by Beethoven
. . .Oh, and Island? John Bon Jovi appeared on many primary campaign stops with Kerry. But you were never one to let facts get in the way of your vitriol.
On that note, I've got to point out that you've got to stop believing that you look good, unshaven, in a pink tank-top and a frilly green tutu. . .wearing beige sandals.

(read: what the hell are you talking about?)

VINMAN 08-06-2004 08:56 AM

There are many rock musicians and entertainers that are right wing and support GB, but the leftist media will never let you know about them. If a story about one gets by the editing room, that person will somehow be made to look like a brainless psycho.

Another thing what about all the entertainers that do U.S.O. shows?? How come we never hear anything about that??? 2weeks ago there was a concert in Six Flags in NJ called The Freedom Concert to Support our Troops, it was the largest concert ever held there. Raised a ****load of money to help out troops families here in the states. They performed for free.!
Didnt hear anything about that on the news, except the local media.

dd74 08-06-2004 09:56 AM

I think Metallica is a right-leaning band.

Whoppi Goldberg is a republican, and a comedian.

Let's see: Ted Nugent shoots liberals for fun.

Hmmm...I heard Tom Clancy is pretty good beating spoons against his knee.

And Jay Leno: he's hilarious! :rolleyes:

There's your RNC concert right there, fellas!

turbocarrera 08-06-2004 11:12 AM

I wonder what Jimi would have to say about all this..

Machine gun, yeah
Tearing my body all apart

Evil man make me kill you
Evil man make you kill me
Evil man make me kill you
Even though we’re only families apart

The same way you shoot me down, baby
You’ll be going just the same
Three times the pain,
And your own self to blame
Hey, machine gun...

350HP930 08-06-2004 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Mule
Hey 350,
Wendy let me in I wanna be your friend
I want to guard your dreams and visions
Just wrap your legs 'round these velvet rims
and strap your hands across my engines

I have to agree. Bruce lit the way politically for a whole generation with lyrics like those. Are you sure you weren't thinking of Bob Dylan?

Judging by your argument I assume those must be the only lyrics of his that you know?

Moneyguy1 08-06-2004 06:48 PM

Vin:

Do only conservative entertainers raise money or care for the families of our troops?

I would think there are a lot of folks out there that would put the welfare of the families above political differences. Most Americans, even those who do not agree with the "war" are not against the troops, no matter what the spinmeisters say.

As for the "leftist media" not bringing out those perfoormers who are behind our President, then it is the duty of the conservative talk show hosts to take up the slack. What I see of the media, it depends which kind you watch or read; the print or the box what the leaning is......

fintstone 08-06-2004 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Vin:

Do only conservative entertainers raise money or care for the families of our troops?

Yes!

speeder 08-06-2004 11:48 PM

I'm sorry that you feel that way, Stone. I would be behind any effort to assist military families. :cool:

fintstone 08-07-2004 08:35 AM

Gee Speeder, I did not realize you were an entertainer. Do you sing or do comedy? You are pretty good, I thought you were serious with some of those funny posts.

The liberal entertainers could help the military families the most if they would stop giving aid and comfort to those trying to kill their family members. The terrorists are convinced (just like Vietnam) that if they can hold on just a little longer...maybe Kerry will be elected and they will win. Isn't it strange that the same man could be the cause of us losing the only two wars this nation has lost in it's history...In spite of overwhelming odds in our favor both times.

Moneyguy1 08-07-2004 08:40 AM

"Yes" is a simplistic and unprovable answer.

fintstone 08-07-2004 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
"Yes" is a simplistic and unprovable answer.
On the contrary, it is quite easy to prove. If there were liberal entertainers raising money for military familes....in 5 seconds a liberal would have posted links to an article from Move-on.lies
Silence sometimes answers the question as well as words.

speeder 08-07-2004 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Gee Speeder, I did not realize you were an entertainer. Do you sing or do comedy? You are pretty good, I thought you were serious with some of those funny posts.

The liberal entertainers could help the military families the most if they would stop giving aid and comfort to those trying to kill their family members. The terrorists are convinced (just like Vietnam) that if they can hold on just a little longer...maybe Kerry will be elected and they will win. Isn't it strange that the same man could be the cause of us losing the only two wars this nation has lost in it's history...In spite of overwhelming odds in our favor both times.

Wow, you just choose to understand only what suits you, huh? And yes, I do sing as a matter of fact, assclown.

You seem to believe that anyone who questions their government's policies is un-patriotic/helping enemies kill our troops/etc., I seriously think that you would have been happier living in Saddam's Iraq or maybe present day Iran or Sudan. You would have been a respected Republican Guard member w/ lots of official favors. And you could have imprisoned or killed anyone who criticised the King. I mean President. (My bad).

So now John Kerry was "the cause of us losing (Viet Nam)..." :rolleyes:

WTF are you smoking/huffing down there in the desert, Pal? Time to get some fresh air! You are a piece of work! Micheal Moore would admire you, in some strange way. :cool:

island911 08-07-2004 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by speeder
. . .And yes, I do sing as a matter of fact, assclown.
. ...

Hey that is great. I want tickets! :D

. . I want to hear this song, by speeder, called "assclown." http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/lol2.gif

Moneyguy1 08-07-2004 03:50 PM

Gee, Fint..

Your second answer made just as much sense as your first..What a confusing little world you live in....

island911 08-07-2004 04:04 PM

It made sense to me.

. . .maybe if you guys try just a little bit harder. ;)

fintstone 08-07-2004 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by speeder
So now John Kerry was "the cause of us losing (Viet Nam)..." :rolleyes:
No doubt in my mind. He made huge contributions! That is why the North Vietnam holds him in such great esteem and most US veterans despise him. His work for North Vietnam in the early '70s is well documented in both the US and North Vietnese news. That is probably why he is given such a place of honor in their War Museum.

fintstone 08-07-2004 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by speeder
Wow, you just choose to understand only what suits you, huh? And yes, I do sing as a matter of fact, assclown.

You seem to believe that anyone who questions their government's policies is un-patriotic/helping enemies kill our troops/etc., I seriously think that you would have been happier living in Saddam's Iraq or maybe present day Iran or Sudan. You would have been a respected Republican Guard member w/ lots of official favors. And you could have imprisoned or killed anyone who criticised the King. I mean President. (My bad).:cool:

Although I am not familiar with you choice of songs...Perhaps you could contact the USO and offer your services. I'm sure Assclown is a fine song and would be a big morale builder for our military families.

As far as questioning the government, it is certainly one's right, but actions have consequences. We are at war and anything that helps the enemy, although legal, endangers our military members. If one feels their beef with the president is important enough to weaken our nation abroad and cause a lot more soldiers to return in body bags, then that is on their conscience. What I really hate are the musicians and such that do it for the additional audience/money. Kerry did it in '71 and look how far he came. Now Michael Moore is rich from his "documentary." Although they did not break the law; they might as well have made their money selling weapons to the terrorists.

Moneyguy1 08-07-2004 05:31 PM

ANd all this time I thought that "freedom" included the right to opposing views.

God, I remember when I got out of the Coast Guard and the Vietnam war was going on. College was difficult to deal with, what with all the opposition to the war and such. I just saw a movie (with John Wayne) "The Green Berets". Showed the bad side of the war, and it was advertised as the only movie about the war made during the war. Granted, a Hollywood product, but if it were only partly true, it is a stark condemnation of the times....

War is a bad thing and, BTW...in that war, we DID change leadership...

fintstone 08-07-2004 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
ANd all this time I thought that "freedom" included the right to opposing views.

I don't think I have ever seen a conservative post that did not allow for opposing views. The problem is that most liberals refuse to take responsibility for their actions. When they voice those views in a public forum, there are consequences. Surely even they can see that it provides aid and comfort to the enemy who uses it as propaganda to serve their purpose. I have no problem with protesting war beforehand or afterward; but while american troops are in harms way, I would do nothing that might encourage the enemy to think that the American people/government would change course if they can kill a few more americans or behead a few more innocent civilians. It was pretty telling when the terrorists started quoting the democratic leadership and increased their attacks.

Personally, I think most of the anti-war crowd are really just the anti-bush crowd. The same folks that whined about the election and Al Gore's defeat are many of the same folks that turned anti-war when it became perceived as a weakness for Bush. I didn't see any of them protesting the war in Kosovo or outright genocide in many places during the previouys administration. It is despicable that folks like Michael Moore and Ted Kennedy are willing to sacrifice our men and women in the military for a political advantage. They have the right to say what they please...but they are responsible for the consequences.

350HP930 08-07-2004 08:17 PM

Oh no the secret is out. Now everyone will know that when I state that bush sucks on this BBS al-qaeda grows stronger as a direct result.

:rolleyes:

If not for speeders assurances otherwise I would be lead to believe that mul and fint were one in the same.

Perhaps they are just sharing a fraction of a brain?


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