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Time for Objectivity - "Control Room" Documentary
Toss MM and the other bleeding- hearts aside, now we can finally get an objective view (well, a perspective, anyway) on the Iraq war. A new documentary is in theaters now with an inside look at Al-Jazeera. As I understand it, the format of the flick is strictly a "behind-the-scenes" look at US and Arab news coverage of the events leading up to and the war itself. No op-ed stuff (per MM's style) - just the facts jack - viewer draws his/her own conclusions.
I've read a couple of very positive reviews on this and plan on seeing it as soon as I can track it down... World Film Review CultureVulture Review Apparently Rumsfeld has a couple of great lines... Anyone seen this yet?
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I only saw a preview for it during F/911. Sounds interesting. I did like the quote where a reporter says that Al-Jazeera is the Arab world's version of Fox "News".
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I thought Al Jazeera was more closely parallel to the Pravda?
 Either way, a good documentary on the area would be worthwhile. Thanks for the links, Joe. Dan
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sadly, you just can't trust anything that calls itself a documentary anymore....Moore and the left have forever stained any film that purports itself as such...Propaganda.
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anyone who thinks that *any* documentary is unbiased doesn't really understand the genre. There is no such thing as "photo realism" and there is no such thing as a documentary without a POV. You cannot make one without bias and a throughline. And in fact, you can't even shoot a still photo without bias.
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Yes, but at least in the past, if one called their film a documentary, reviewers, newspapers, television news, etc would take them to task if they strayed too far from reality. That has not happened in the case of F911. In fact, many prominent politico have treated it as an unbiased, factual documentary...Of course, the truth often eludes them.
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Actually I don't agree. The press would take a doc to task if it didn't match *their* take on "reality". There are plenty of press outlets that are lambasting F911 right now, just as there are ones that embrace it. If a pro-war/pro-Bush doc was put out right now, same thing would happen, just reverse the players.
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But I don't think that mainstream journalists or politicians (except those like Sharpton or David Duke) would have ever backed such a clearly partisan and dishonest attempt before. Their reputations would have suffered to the point where they were unelectable.
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I found "Control Room" to be a very very well done film. It was very interesting to see the Iraq war from an arab perspective. I was fascinated with how little I knew about Al Jazeera and how much of that information was based exclusively on 3rd party comments, and not on any direct expirience. I think the movie was pretty balanced in terms of showing both sides of the story. It really gives you a different perspective on the media, and how the coverage of the war was scripted and how some organizations work for and against that scripting.
As a documentary I think it might be the best one I've seen lately, and I have to admit I've become a bit of a documentary junkie as of late. I highly recommend seeing this. It's worth the $8. Britt |
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Al Jazeera is not like Pravda. Pravda was controlled by a government. Al Jazeera is fiercly independant (to here them tell it).
I think it was an employee of Al Jazeera who made the comparison that Fox News plays to American Patriotism and Al Jazeera plays to Arab Nationalism. Good movie. Britt |
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Unless the documentary slams AJ and paints the iraq war as a noble errort I am sure the right wingers will rail against this documentary just as much as they malign F911.
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Pravda - ah, Pravda - Pravda said:
"Jeel beel kara ogoday blyum blocha jeli," ("It stinks").
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