how do you guys handle trashtalking?

[vash]

at the track or in my case an autoX. lets just say, i have some friends that are newbies at fast-ish driving like myself. and they think they know it all. personally, i like to think my instructors know more than me, and i listen more than i talk.

it wouldnt be bad if they didnt call me all the time to justify themselves on their times, (slower than mine ). the excuses are making my head hurt. i dont know enough about driving to defend myself.

cliff
p.s. and these are friends!

[juanbenae]

well since they are friends tell them to F-off or eat S...

i would ignore it and point at the score board, as long as you times are close to your class winners you are good. its like anything else contested,, talk is cheap and excusses are cheaper.

the only excuse i'd stand for is "well you have a 911 and its so much better than what i drive (insert- miata, 928, 914, 951, & etc) no wonder you are faster"

[ZCAT3]

Vash - are you a member of PCA? If so, check your latest edition of "The Nugget" as there is an article regarding excuses at the race track. It is prety amusing - for example, tires are always worth 2 seconds - no matter what. So, if you have new tires, you loose 2 seconds because they are not scrubbed in. If they are old, you loose 2 seconds due to wear. If the other guy's tires are old, you still loose 2 seconds cause his are at their ultimate stickiness, etc.

[targa911S]

[Randy Webb]

yeh copy the article and hand it to the next guy that mouths off

you can pull it out and check off the right ones while he yaks - then hand it over when he asks what you are doing

[Isabo]

Originally posted by targa911S

But what if your friends have bigger knives?

[RickM]

Originally posted by vash
it wouldnt be bad if they didnt call me all the time to justify themselves on their times, (slower than mine ).

Maybe you should be the one teaching them.

[Isabo]

All jokes aside, just let them bleat!
All anyone remembers after a day or two is the results.
Losers with excuses only make themselves look silly.
Keep beating their times and laugh

[targa911S]

Isabo you have been on the SKM site too much! Acually that one is a Frank Beltram. I'd like to see someone push the button on that 36"er!

[emcon5]

Originally posted by vash
it wouldnt be bad if they didnt call me all the time to justify themselves on their times, (slower than mine ). the excuses are making my head hurt.

Let them say their bit, and give their excuses. When they are done, say this:

"So what you are telling me is, you suck. Does that pretty much sum things up?"



Tom

[juanbenae]

Isa,,, what trailer park bulletin board did you find those two shots on?

oh,, dean (dfastbear) posted that excuse article on the current bay area autocross thread. he and his wife write that colum for the nugget.

[Isabo]

I poached the images from Milu's computer, he has a huge databank of images of all sorts and I understand how he archives. Milu collects knives including switches, one he keeps in the office is a presntation F. Beltrame with damascus blade and mammoth ivory handle. I flick it when I'm alone in the office and in frustrated Emma Peel (the Avengers) mode

[targa911S]

Frank B. builds the best. I have a collection of about 20 or so myself. I have an 11" damascus with honey horn bolsters that is my pride and joy. Something about the sound of a switch that is musical. you are situated pretty close to the switchblade capitol of the world, Maniago. I have a 13" that is like a folding sword. When youu hit the button you can hear the wind off the blade whipping through the air. So cool!

[Milu]

Check out the latest Frank B. swinguard! Now that is musical!



If I had the money I would love a custom auto stilleto by Burn and some Coricamas from the 1950s.
So many vices, so little time and money

[targa911S]

yeah baby! swings do make a sound all their own! I have seen some Burn knives that are drop down gorgeous. but way pricey!

[masraum]

Personally I'm a big fan of Benchmade knives. They've got some sweet autos.

[ScottKelly911]

Ha, those are no match for my Cowbutter knife!!!

Scott aka Mouse

[ChrisBennet]

Would it be too enlightened to just let them make their excuses and agree with them if it will makes them feel better?
-Chris

[vash]

chris, that is what i figured i would do.

didnt want to complain about the highjack, at least not with the knife lovers.

my vote is for benchmade. hands down.

[RoninLB]

Originally posted by ChrisBennet

Would it be too enlightened to just let them make their excuses and agree with them if it will makes them feel better?
-

it depends imo.
Deep slow breathing can sometimes be necessary if you have the patience. You're not getting paid for your thoughts so you gotta go w/your flow imo.. and I guess treating them like 5yr olds is more peaceful till they leave if that's what's happening.

The other twist is maybe the jerk does contribute to others and yourself. How about your in a situation where your picking 3 brains and the jerk is involved. Then it's group dynamics that has to be managed by you.

Personally, it's much easier to deal w/ a jerk that's interested in an education than a jerk that's ranting.