Do stupid people answer your ads?

930 Guy · 08-11-2004, 05:17 PM

I put out an ad listing what I have paid for parts, and custom race prep. that I have for sale. Is it just me, or do retards like Slammed 1000 write stuipid comments in response to everyones ads? Can anyone tell me why he has a bug up his butt? Cut it out Slammed 1000. Your making retards look like smart people.

david.avery · david.avery's Garage

I've sent people PM's if I think their price is off, and try to be totally polite and unassuming when I do. I do it when I know for a fact that a new part is available (for instance a steering wheel) for less or the same as they are asking, mostly to stop some lam3r from quipping something like "dude, you can get that at walmart for a dollar, and you're asking a dollar fifty!" and give them a chance at re-pricing, at their own discretion.

This doesn't seem to be the case on your ad however

andrew15 · 07:39 PM

It's the nature of the internet to have differing opinions - this is mine

- Slammed100 was actually pretty laid back in offering the opinion that $17,500 for a set of Heads and P&Cs may be a bit high.

- You probably shouldn't hassle someone about their spellling only to make a few spelling / grammatical errors yourself a few minutes later - it invariably leads to a pot/kettle/black situation

- I'm sure they are nice parts, but the bottom line is that they may be difficult to sell here. I suspect most people here would purchase good used parts and have them machined to their own specs by someone like EBS for far less than $17k

Regards,
Andrew M

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slammed1000 · 08-11-2004, 06:40 PM

930 guy, i guess you are calling most people on this board retards? now thats not very nice. i gave an opinion and then got hounded. i did repost and i hope that you dont take my opinion the wrong way again. i do hope you sell your parts and i made you an offer. not all of us has 17g's laying around to put into our porsches for just pistons, cylinders and a set of heads.

andrew- you nailed it exactly

TonyG · 08-11-2004, 07:58 PM

Wow... cough cough cough... get up off the floor...

Ok..

$17,500.00 for a set of pistons, cylinders and heads?

Uh I could buy a 993TT motor for that complete (and I can do it all day for $20k) airfilter-to-computer....

TonyG

Alan Cottrill · Alan Cottrill's Garage

if I was a serious buyer I might say hey thats a little steep...would you take $15,500.

But if you don't want to buy his parts, move along...there's nothing for you here. If you don't want his parts keep your mouth shut. your posts don't exactly help him sell his parts.

if you saw an ad in the news paper where you thought the price was just completely out of whack would you call the guy up and flip him ***** about it. he!! no you wouldn't!

When I see people making borderline rude posts about the price/marketability of other peoples listings, it makes me want to seek out their listings and make comments that might cause people to question the value of the parts they're offering.

My $.02

al lkosmal · 08-11-2004, 09:50 PM

yes

TonyG · 08-11-2004, 11:17 PM

If I was a serious buyer I might say hey thats a little steep...would you take $8,500

BTW... I am a serious buyer. Just not a foolish buyer.

TonyG

Jay Auskin · 01:16 AM

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350HP930 · 08-12-2004, 12:48 AM

I am with slammed on this one. Just cause 930 guy payed way too much for some cylinders and head work does not mean others want to do the same.

After doing a search for the sale thread I see that these items have been listed at least once a month for almost a year with no bites yet but there have been several other comments from other posters letting this guy know that the price he payed is a bit steep.

I suspect his frustration with slammed is more due the fact that he paid a lot of money and can't unload these items for close to what he paid for them. I would say the retard is the guy who spent as much money on cylinders and heads as some people spend on an entire hi-po 930 rebuild.

If he is looking for someone with extremely deep pockets who does not realize the cost savings of shopping around and DIY or a place where people will blow sunshine up his ass 930 guy has come to the wrong place.

This guy should learn to take the advice people here are giving him, including specifying exaclty what was done to these 'race items' that would make them worth that kind of money.

Aurel · Aurel's Garage

I`d be a retard if I bought a set of P&Cs & heads for $17,500. You are the one trying to make smart people look like retards, 930 guy.

Aurel

930 Guy · 08-12-2004, 05:23 AM

Interesting comments. David Avery seems to be on track. Tony G is comparing Apples to Oranges. These are not street car parts. Full Race. Alan Cottrill on track. 350 HP 930 doesn't know anything about the bites I have had. These are not 930 heads, and if he knew anything about what stock 3 ltr heads from the Porsche factory flowed, he would be impressed with the cfm these flow. He must be knowledgable, of course, he took a stock 930 with 295 hp and improved it to 300! Alan Cottrill said it best in regards to ad responses. PS. Everyone should note, I don't even list an asking price! I am listing what was spent. Now you know what lengths race teams go through. Aurel, if you were on a race team and didn't spend that kind of $ you would never even leave the pits. Race parts and street car parts are apples and oranges.

930 Guy · 08-12-2004, 05:39 AM

First off my only point is exactly what someone else said. If you don't want their parts. Don't send shi88y little notes. Secondly, these are an extra set (yes we paid for two sets) of heads and P/C's I had worked for a car that was featured in excellence a few years ago ( black slant nose) article was on this high rev'ing Porsche. This car was built to handle 10,000 rpm (check your redline!) and live for the duration of a race. Quite a feat. Third, I challenge anyone to locate brand new parts (only available from Porsche) Heads, P&C's. Then call any race shop. Tell them you are building a 10K rpm race car. You need the cyl 100 overbore, and the cyl & pistons weight matched . Then, you want your brand new heads worked to flow 250 CFM! And you want a print out to verify that. Twin plugged, dual valve springs, oversized valves. Then, write me a snotty little note and say I'm asking to little. Brian

rcecale · rcecale's Garage

Lighten up, Francis!

350HP930 · 08-12-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by 930 Guy
350 HP 930 doesn't know anything about the bites I have had. These are not 930 heads, and if he knew anything about what stock 3 ltr heads from the Porsche factory flowed, he would be impressed with the cfm these flow. He must be knowledgable, of course, he took a stock 930 with 295 hp and improved it to 300!

Well, my idea of someone biting results in a purchase and the fact that you have been advertising the same items for a year means no bites to me. While you may not be posting what you want for them I imagine its also steep to have not sold these items in all this time.

You also need to read a little more carefully. I took a car with about 295 HP at the crank and about 250 at the back wheels and tweaked that up to about 300 RWHP which works out to about 350 at the crank and represents about an 18% power increase.

I know what the flow is like on stock 930 heads so for that reason I am porting my heads as part of my rebuild. They may not flow 250 cfm when I am done but it will be a nice improvement for a turbocharged street car.

IMHO, if you bought new heads and cylinders from porsche only to port and bore them was not the best choice you could have made. Seasoned used parts are the best for such modifications since they have already been heat and stress cycled and are therefore subject to less creep and distortion than a new set would be.

While some people here prefer to be overly polite I am willing to tell you that it sounds like you paid too much for your items. Thats your prerogative but good luck finding someone here who is willing to pay you what you want for them.

930 Guy · 08-15-2004, 05:24 AM

Here's just another example. I just saw a note from Stroker Racing complaining about Extrude Hone. Well, well, my how things change. Seems a while back he responded with a number of little notes bashing me on what was spent on my custom work. Well Stroker, here's my note to you. I read your note on Extrude hone. Wish I could have responded but the thread is locked. I can't say I have any simpathy for you. Remember a while back when I ran an ad for Full race parts with work that was done to them. You responded bragging all the way that you were getting the same work done for just $1400. Maybe you should have spent that time doing a little investigation instead. Remember when you said.............................................M y heads flow 300 cfm on the intake. That was 900 dollars worth of port work from extrude hone and a 500 dollar valve job. 1400 bucks total on the port work Eric You went on to say........................flow sheets or dyno charts? Stephen at Imagine auto is building my motor. It is a 3.5 liter with a custom t-72 turbo, custom headers, custom intercooler, custom cams blah blah blah. Depending on the tune it should make 750-900+ at the wheels so you could say it is the real deal. Eric Sure Eric, You get what you pay for...........that's the real deal...............