Where is John Edwards?

08-21-2004, 01:36 PM

There's virtually no buzz about him. I thought he'd be out bangin the drum.

350HP930 · 08-21-2004, 01:42 PM

Its another conspiracy by the liberal media . . .

on-ramp · 02:47 PM

here you go:

"Edwards Denounces New Overtime Rules"

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?oldflok=FF-APO-1131&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040821%2F1132374831.htm&sc=1131&flok=NW_5-L3

this is a real issue for real Americans (hint hint). that extra overtime money helps pay a couple bills every month and it's being taken away from hard working Americans.

again, shame on Bush, giving extra money to the rich through tax cuts while taking overtime hours away from people who actually need the money to make ends meet.... makes a lot of sense.

Shuie · 02:51 PM

He was in Louisiana a few weeks ago. By himself.

on-ramp · 08-21-2004, 02:47 PM

man, you guys are not looking hard enough.

"Edwards: Bush could stop swift boat ads"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/21/edwards.swiftboat/index.html

350HP930 · 08-21-2004, 02:53 PM

I guess if its not on fox news or newsmax it doesn't exist.

on-ramp · 08-21-2004, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by 350HP930
I guess if its not on fox news or newsmax it doesn't exist.

it's on Fox too, haha

Edwards Denounces New Overtime Rules
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129646,00.html

on-ramp · 08-21-2004, 02:57 PM

the "fair and balanced" network also has this ad on their page:

08-21-2004, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by on-ramp
here you go:

"Edwards Denounces New Overtime Rules"

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?oldflok=FF-APO-1131&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040821%2F1132374831.htm&sc=1131&flok=NW_5-L3

this is a real issue for real Americans (hint hint). that extra overtime money helps pay a couple bills every month and it's being taken away from hard working Americans.

again, shame on Bush, giving extra money to the rich through tax cuts while taking overtime hours away from people who actually need the money to make ends meet.... makes a lot of sense.

Ummmm, maybe you want to read the article before throwing pipe bombs. Here's a quote:

Quote:

The Labor Department says no more than 107,000 workers will lose overtime eligibility from the changes, but about 1.3 million will gain it.

Damn you Mr Bush.

on-ramp · 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Mark Wilson
Ummmm, maybe you want to read the article before throwing pipe bombs. Here's a quote:

Damn you Mr Bush.

i think you need some new reading glasses:

"The liberal Economic Policy Institute in Washington predicts 6 million workers will lose overtime pay, and only a few will get new rights to premium pay after 40 hours."

350HP930 · 08-21-2004, 03:03 PM

Yup, "trust us, we are the bush adminnistration's labor department."

We know that none of bush's departments would ever distort the facts or lie.

08-21-2004, 03:26 PM

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The liberal Economic Policy Institute in Washington

That's the funniest thing posted all day. Credibility-R-Us.

Moneyguy1 · 08-21-2004, 06:16 PM

I watched overtime erode in local government back east for years. I watched jobs "reclassified" and made "exempt". then folks working six days a week for five days pay.

Doc..Were't you recently bitterly complaining about certain work rules that affected you?

08-21-2004, 07:33 PM

I was in fact complaining about a new requirement my current employer imposed. I have decided to vote with my feet and find different employment - a right granted to all Americans.

350HP930 · 07:43 PM

Here in america we also have other rights besides voting with our feet.

osidak · 08-21-2004, 07:53 PM

I am one of the few that went from exempt to earning overtime for any hours worked over 40.

Yeah

08-21-2004, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by 350HP930
Here in america we also have other rights besides voting with our feet.

You have an uncanny grasp of the obvious. Thanks for your insight.

RoninLB · 08-21-2004, 09:29 PM

Gentlemen.. may I cut the pol bs for a brief visit?

The current labor laws have been very successful for many many reasons.. The laws were instituted when market economics were very different than today. Flexibility within mgt and labor founded in a flexible eco system allowed a win win overall since the 1930's. Significant movement since the 1970's leaned to a raising of "work", as it's roughly defined, productivity. The markets are now intertwined on an international scale. The concept of this "work" is becoming more defined by a new scale.

If we can discount who will absorb the shocks of any change, then it can be stated that re-defined labor laws will allow a greater dynamic and successfully competitive US economic system overall. Naturally change will eventuall happen again in the far future..

This US system will continue to be the world's greatest because of it's flexibility. It will adapt.

350HP930 · 08-22-2004, 05:59 AM

I guess that begs the question why are job fleeing the country if our workers are the most productive in the world?

island911 · 08-22-2004, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by 350HP930
I guess that begs the question why are job fleeing the country if our workers are the most productive in the world?

One reason would be too much tax-overhead for each employee.

Though I'm sure that Kerry Edwards can put together a govt program to look at that problem . .. .they will only raise everyones taxes a bit to look for a solution.

But do not worry, the'll raise the other guys taxes not yours. . .well. . .won't raise yours very much, anyway . . .you don't want kids to go hungry do you.