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Another this-is-what-I-do-for-a-living thread (or why my 911 has sat for 2 months)

I designed and built an enclosed patio for my own house.


From the yard


How the roof was done before covering with smoke polycarbonate


Some detail


Old 08-31-2004, 08:20 PM
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you have got to be kidding? that is stunning! love it!
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That is definitely a good reason. Looks great. By the way, what is smoke polycarbonate? Are they the plastic sheets that you nail down?
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Yeah, it's like that green wavy fiberglass stuff you buy at the Home Defect. It's just the new deal, like having tinted windows on your roof.
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Zeke,

Great job.

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Show off - good job!
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Wow. Did you do all that yourself? Contractors for any of it? I'm impressed!
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Just a couple of footnotes. There are no fasteners showing anywhere. Everything is bolted with blind lag screws, some 12" long.

And the Hip rafter is not on a 45* angle. It's 30*, you carpenters know what that does and how hard it is to execute the layout and the cuts. It's a design thing, makes the room look bigger. Look at the lattice work again and you will see the angle back to the house. I'll never do that again, but I like how it turned out.

When you work on your own house, you can do what you damn well please. I'll turn it over to the 'decorator' now.

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was he a Free Mason?

More sick work. And here I was feeling all sassy about the painting 3 bedrooms....NOT
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Congrats - it looks very comfy and homey -- maybe the warm tones are doing that. I like the polycarbonate too. It should last longer than a real roof...

Gald to see a carpenter who has time to work on his own house (shop is not included in that folks - no points for that).
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Whoa - is that just a dark stain? Or did you use what I think you used?
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Cool enclosed patio, daddy-o!
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That is awesome. It looks like the perfect spot to kick back, play some cards and smoke some hooka. How's the smoke polycarbonate as far as keeping the room temperature down during the days?
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That is beautiful! Great work!!
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Very nice, very nice.
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Great work! I need some of that at my house!
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when cutting the jack rafters for the 30* hip how many ups and downs after cuts? did you measure for each one, or after you cut the 1st two for each side were you able to determine how much the next would grow or shrink? i did many remodels where had i cut the roof in the driveway using a rafter book i would have ended up with a pile of scrap.

toward the end of my carpentry days cutting roofs was the only thing that got me out of bed excited about the work. i found during wall framing late in my career i would sit out with a pile of 4X and cut headers, passed the time.....

nice look though. i especially like the stained roof members, and the fancy rafter tails. nice work zeke.
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Two months? Milt, fantastic work! Hell, it would have taken me that long to find the right contractor. I envy you "hand skills" guys.
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when cutting the jack rafters for the 30* hip how many ups and downs after cuts? did you measure for each one, or after you cut the 1st two for each side were you able to determine how much the next would grow or shrink? i did many remodels where had i cut the roof in the driveway using a rafter book i would have ended up with a pile of scrap.

toward the end of my carpentry days cutting roofs was the only thing that got me out of bed excited about the work. i found during wall framing late in my career i would sit out with a pile of 4X and cut headers, passed the time.....

nice look though. i especially like the stained roof members, and the fancy rafter tails. nice work zeke.
The pitch is 2:12, so the rafter book gave me a start on the plumb cut. However, it was not accurate due to the fact that a 30* hip will produce two different rood pitches either side of the hip. So, I really laid out my plumb cut angle up on the hip and transferred it to the jack rafter. The bevel cuts were, of course, 30 and 60* respectively. The 60 is the one that is hard, as no saw will bevel that much. So I cut the plumb cut line and used a hand saw to finish the cut. No mistakes, all were good.

Even the common rafters on a shed roof can be custom because the existing wall you're coming off may have some wows to it. The ledger is not always parallel to the wall plate (in this case a 6x 10, so it wasn't moving either, LOL) The first time I gang cut rafters for a shed was when I learned that the hard way.


It was fun, no need to do it again. I had my folly. Thanks, guys, for the nice words. I gotta get back on the 911, still a long way to go on that puppy. I gotta cut out some door sills and not the kind you'd find on a house.

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