i use profanity.
 

ok, i have been know to drop the "F" bomb on occasion. never in hate, just to add some flavor, emphasise. you know. the S-word is even more tame.

the bbs has some very conservative folks on board. i gotta hear some opinions. based on the NASCAR decision to dink earnhart for saying fecal matter in an easier way, bono saying the f-word, janet flashing a boob. WTF? in my opinion, no big deal. i bet nascar fans cuss alot. who is offended? what law has been broken? it just pisses me off. i think everyone is just gunshy now that mike powell is heading the FCC. sorry for the rant......

When it happened, the announcer said " That ought to be good for a point" but 25pts???? It wasn't even out of bad sportsmanship. He was celebrating a victory! Totaly out of hand.

Rediculous, no doubt. I wonder what's going to become of all this? In car cameras- gone, to many drivers shooting the bird at other drivers and getting caught on live tv. The same can be said after a wreck when a driver shoots the bird, and chunks his helmet (while still on the track) towards the at fault driver when he passes by under caution, non the less, in front of all the fans! Looks like it's time to make some rule changes or say good bye to TV, and spectators in the grandstands. My eyes, my ears, they burn!:rolleyes:

I'm offended that you even brought this up.

NASCAR is weak. http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/explode.gif

I think the best qoute that he made later was something to the effect that if you were offended by that word I doubt you would even be watching a Nascar broadcast. True enough. Bottom line, who really gives a $hit about such language being used in the context it was used. It slipped, he apologized for the"offensive" remark and that should have been it. Is there anyone who hasn't done something similar. For god's sake I have cursed in Church by accident. !#$% happens.

I curse on a regular basis but I see the reasoning for strict rules and penalties. If FCC lets the F-bomb slide one time every other person that uses it will refer to the first time. After a while it will become regularly used and detrimental to society. They are just trying to nip it in the bud before it gets started. We have to have some rules to have a civilization.

BTW: F@ck that!;)

you know the FCC has gone a little too far when PBS has to bleep its content for fear of getting sued.

My two boys are now 14 and 16. When they were very young, I searched high and low for sports I could watch with them. The very last NBA game I have ever watched featured Charles Barkley hollering "f*ck you" at a fan, with his face taking up my whole TV screen. I think my boys were about four and six at the time. Now don't get me wrong, I can appreciate a well-rendered "f*ck you" as well as the next guy, when circumstances dictate. Just not in front of the young kids. In the end, I wound up watching Winston Cup. I really hate when people use the tired old "it's for the children", but I think in this case it is. Families need things they can watch together with NO chance for this. Not even the Superbowl fills that niche anymore. I applaud NASCAR.

Get the fk outa here.....

F*CK NASCAR

I think NASCAR has put themselves in a tough spot. They need to follow the precedent they set earlier in the season, but all hell's going to break loose when Jefff Gordon wins the championship by 24 points at the end of the season. I can't wait. Go Speed Racer, Go!!!

Pure and simple. Boiling frog syndrome.

I would think NASCAR and profanity go hand in hand....

From what I understand, they HAD to levy that fine as they have had to do the same to others prior to this incedent. Too bad Jr! I can see the money fine, but the 25 points is harsh this time of the season and what the hell does cussing have to do with f***in' racing? He earned the points by racing (so to speak). So does anybody get bonus points for good sportsmanship and clean language? I don't agree with the points fine.

In the end I have to say that I think NASCAR did the right thing with the dollar fine. They bill themselves as something the whole family can enjoy on a Sunday. I can't fault them for trying to keep it wholesome. I think their slogan is "Where America meets on Sunday" kinda like high speed church.

I think it's great that NASCAR over reacted. Maybe more people will see how overblown all this FCC crap is.

Fines just don't mean anything in pro sports anymore. Fining a NASCAR driver ten grand would be like fining me a buck. Not much of a deterent to bad behaviour. I say fine 'em in a way that hurts. Take points away. Make 'em sit out the next race. Either that, or let 'em cuss away. That would put NASCAR on late night TV and take away their audience base - families. I'm no puritan by any means, but I don't like to be surprised by this kind of stuff in venues where I should be able to reasonably expect to bring my family. I would rather have to go bit out of my way to find it. It's more fun that way anyway.

i just use the first letter now, like F you, or i dont give a S. works good, fcc aint knocking on my door and it even works around the office

While i don't have a problem with the FCC regulating profanity, I noticed today that Howard Stern says when his contract is up, he's going to satellite radio which the FCC can't regulate. The airwave broadcasters have a real disadvantage, they can't broadcast boobs or profanity on the air, but cable can. So for people like me who get their TV via' cable, one channel can, and another can't without getting fined. What's the fairness in that?

What's the difference between ***** and crap?

Cultural taboo?

Fuch NASCRAP!!!

Blame Canada.

I want to know what the big deal with Janet's boob. It's just a natrual part of the body.

In her case, I suspect that it was more silicone than natural. :rolleyes: :D

-Z.

very well said

Thank you. I thought that was going under the radar.....:)

Maybe I should be ashamed of my ignorance but I was not familiar with Boiled Frog Syndrome so I looked it up. For those similarly situated it goes something like this if you throw a frog into a pot of boiling water, he’ll jump out. But if you place a frog into a pot of lukewarm water and slowly turn up the heat, it will boil to death.

Learn something new every day. Thanks Hammer.

No Hammer, not under the radar; I think your comment says it all. I hate to pick on the NBA again, but what a perfect example. Where did they start going bad? No one can put their finger on it. One thing is certain, though. If you took today's typical on-court behaviour and language back to the '60's or '70's, people would have been outraged. It never would have flown. Now the NBA is facing declining attendance and T.V. audiences. A lot of people won't bring their kids anywhere near that display of foul-mouthed gangsta wannabes. If they would have exercised the same "unreasonable" diligence as NASCAR is now, they would not be in this mess.

I think society as a whole is headed that way. Take anything...network TV, Radio, Movies, whatever and compare it with the same 10 or 20 years ago. Big difference. But the changes have come so slowly and steadily they are almost invisible. One degree at a time.

I use profanity as well, particularly on inantimate objects like tie rod ends..... :D

Jeff,

Regarding the NBA, sure some of the decline in attendence of kids is due to poor on and off court behavior, but how much is it because of skyrocketing ticket costs. It's at least a $200 night for a family of 4 to attend an NBA game.

It is interesting to see how TV has changed over the past 10+ years. I don't have kids so I don't care, but I have to say I have changed the channel when watching TV with some small nephews and nieces.

When my boys were little, my wife called them "daddy's 'working on the car' words" as she shuffled them inside and turned up the T.V. My now 16 year old son displayed a remarkable command of the English language this summer as I was helping him put a new tranny in his bug. Pretty impressive, really, but not to his mother. She went inside and turned up the T.V. There is a time and a place for everything...

I like the old days of the SW american indians version of basketball(Hopi?,Apache?,?).
After victory, it was common for the fans of the winning side to loot the losers side at will.
Probably not a lot of swearing, more like a "ARGGGGHHHH"......

Hahaha.... If they really wanted to elevate societal standards, they'd stop 20+ cars driving fast in a very little circle.

The difference between crap and *****?

The origin of crap is still being debated. Possible sources include the Dutch Krappe; Low German krape, meaning a vile and inedible fish; Middle English crappe, and Thomas Crapper. Where crap is derived from Crapper, it is by a process know as, pardon the pun, a back formation. The World War I doughboys passing through England brought together Crapper's name and the toilet. They saw the words T. Crapper---Chelsea printed on the tanks and coined the slang "crapper" meaning toilet.

*****? Certain types of manure used to be transported (as everything was back then) by ship. In dry form it weighs a lot less, but once water (at sea) hit it. It not only became heavier, but the process of fermentation began again, of which a by-product is methane gas.

As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and did) happen; methane began to build up below decks and the first time someone came below at night with a lantern. BOOOOM!

Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was discovered what was happening.

After that, the bundles of manure where always stamped with the term "S.H.I.T" on them which meant to the sailors to "Ship High In Transit." In other words, high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not touch this volatile cargo and start the production of methane.

You DID ask. :D

As to the F word:
http://www.lyrics.ly/lyrics.php/Adam+Sandler/Lyrics/Uses+Of+The+Word+****
Do a search for the mp3, it has a pious narative over a very stately classical instramental.

Thanks Curt. I've heard the SF sewage treatment plant water pumps at ocean/great highway are run entirely off the excess byprocuct gasses.

Now, that is funny and true of me as well. All by myself, working on a car and something is going tough. I burst out loud with a stream of profanity that would wilt the lawn. :p

You are absolutely right, Neil. I have the typical family of four. I can't afford to bring the whole family to an NBA or NFL game in Seattle. Baseball can still be relatively cheap. It's funny, though, in that NASCAR tickets are some of the most expensive around and they sell out every race. Granted they are only in your town once a year and whatever "home team" you have is there all season, so maybe folks save up for the once a year event. Regardless, it's all out of control when you think about it. Then, to make it even less palatable, these clowns periodically go on strike. Even worse is seeing the fans come back in spite of all of this. I've always thought a one year "fan strike" would put things back in perspective for them.