The long term Cost of John Kerry

[SteveStromberg]

This was posted on one of the forums I vist
I had not thought of this myself but its a good point thanks RB

You will pay upkeep/Secret Service for 5 Kerry mansions.

It is good to be John F. Kerry....... The F stands for Forbes in case you ever wondered.

He is one of the richest Senators in Government. When someone is elected president, it means the Secret Service has to protect the President and his family as well as his property.

The Kerry's have five US properties not counting the several foreign properties they own too. The cost to run these homes are more than what the average American could afford, even if the rent was free, and all you hadto pay the water, gas & electric. Including ground keepers, maintenance, pool and house keepers. To be President would require the taxpayers to pay for all that now if elected. Including a complete staffed Secret Service security 24 hours a day. In addition to that we will have to pay for each of their homes for security improvements even if they never go to them all, that is, that just in case. Who do you think will pay for all this? We Pay! This takes all the expense off Kerry and puts it on us.


Nevertheless, factor another major cost to Americans
that Kerry does not want you to know about.


Becoming president would automatically include taking
care of all their properties with Secret Service Agents that includes 5 agents per 6 hour shift 4 times a day 365 days of the year for the rest of their lives so long as they own those properties. It comes with being President, once you are elected. It requires us the taxpayers, to pay for this as well as his annual salary, as well as his retirements including the cost of living adjustments to boot, plus salaries and protection for all their real estate property, plus Secret Service Agents, and pay the bills for the rest of his life. In addition, feed the Secret Service Agents and rotate new ones every 6 hours
for the rest of his life.

Do the math. Five properties need to be protected. This requires five Secret Service Agents per shift, daily every six hours, per property! That is 20 Secret Service Agents per day per property everyday including Holidays.


Wow,
what does that cost?


Lets say an average of 20 agents per property, each
earning a about $60K per agent to survey the perimeters and protect. Now times that by five properties so far. That is if the Kerrys do not buy any more properties afterwards. This also includes the Agents vehicles and repairs, gas, meals, days off, paid vacation, and medical plan visits etc per agent.



Who pays? YOU pay, the whole time they are alive after
becoming President! Is this the best use of our tax money electing Kerry to take care of all their properties, both foreign and domestic? On the other hand, shouldn't he pay for his own? Yet, the Presidential salary could not afford it.

The more I think about paying for Kerrys properties everyday, just makes me happy keeping President Bush all the more merrier. Without raising taxes to boot.

How on earth would Kerry pay for everyone to have Healthcare, increase our military, and have us pay to protect his investments, all without raising our taxes? Tax and spend Kerry is his party motto.

Which really has to make you wonder why anyone with his wealth, would take a salary of that of a U.S. Senator, never mind wanna be President? Do you believe now why he needs to be the Prez? To serve the people? On the other hand, the people serve Him and his wife.

[layzee]

So, what? Wealthy people shouldn't run for president? How do you know they won't contribute to the future security detail cost? The Bush clan isn't short of cash either. All former presidents have the potential for vast wealth, thus lots of houses.

Anyway this cost, however huge, will be negligable compared to making a whole new tier of bureaucracy in the name of fighting the war on terror and/or the huge deficit.

[tabs]

Oh BOY...Kerry will have to roll back the Income Tax reduction on 200K earners JUST TO PAY FOR THE SECURITY DETAIL ON HIS HOMES........

[on-ramp]

his running message is "A Stronger Middle Class"

So what's my incentive to work hard as a middle-class citizen?. ... because once i work my way up to making 200/yr, i'll get penalized by paying higher taxes...what kind of a reward is that? haha.

[ubiquity0]

Maybe the constitution should be changed to make only homeless citizens eligible for the presidency?

[Zeke]

I never worry about what a single entity will cost the government. However, I suppose all groups start with one. But really, the cost of 100,00 troops with the equipment, etc. is what concerns me.

One federal prosecution of someone half as potent as John Gotti probably costs more than Kerry will. I don't worry about that either.

The cost of the bureaucracy and the tens of thousands of employees and their retirement is what concerns me. Screw Kerry.

We have to deal with things in principle and not with individuals. My question is who is gonna take care of the principles? Whoever it is, his name didn't appear on my ballot.

[SLO-BOB]

This is a test............

[island911]

record unemployement!? How do you figure that one?


Well Steve, what your missing is that scince Kerry makes such obscene amounts of money, that he pays one hell of a lot in income taxes.

. . .Oh wait . . . no he doesn't. It seems that he can afford to hide it all quite well. Must be nice being such a multi-national huge business holder.

[SLO-BOB]

This is a test............

[Bleyseng]

Yes, in Washington the rate hovered around 10% for the last year using the "real" numbers of people on umemployment and those off benefits.
I was in the Netherlands in August and theirs was about 10%.

Great article.

Geoff

[hoff944]

It is not the president's job or the GOVERNMENT'S job to provide anyone with a job or medical care. The only way a president could create jobs is thru tax cuts.

[SLO-BOB]

Originally posted by hoff944
It is not the president's job or the GOVERNMENT'S job to provide anyone with a job or medical care. The only way a president could create jobs is thru tax cuts.

Aye Carumba! Yes it IS their job!! What do you think their job is, if not to make sure we Americans live in an economically stable country?

Yes- the president can "provide" jobs by removing tax loop-holes and incentives that send American jobs overseas at OUR taxpayer's expense AND forget the whole idea of letting Mexican's over the border for "job passes". Both these practices severely cut into the available jobs for Americans. A president can also create more jobs through economic growth strategies using myriad tools. Therin lies the oft debated baseline difference in philosophy between Democrats and Republicans. Whether to increase or decrease taxes to spur growth.

A side note-I think this constitutes a "hijack" from the original topic and that "Burninator" thing is kind of cool.

[island911]

Originally posted by Sebring77
. ..
This is not meant to be an insult, but I have to wonder if your main source of information is talk radio.

LOL.

And, This is not meant to be an insult, but I have to wonder if you need to work on your critical-thinking abilities.


"This is a nice, non-partisan, starting point. "

Your dream'n dude.

[SLO-BOB]

Again-your nothing if not consistant Island.

Btw-where DO you get this Limbaugh-esque skewed view of the universe? You seem to abhore facts and statistics so my natural assumption was talk radio. Comic books maybe? Or do you just make it up as you go along? Either way-it's very entertaining.

[island911]

Seriously; critical-thinking abilities help one sort-out the wheat from the chaff.

I don't "abhore facts and statistics" I simply am able (as many others are) to see when BS is being promulgated.

You think that http://www.thinkandask.com is spending money on that site just to be impartial and without agenda. (?)

. . where DO YOU get this neophytic skewed view of the universe?

[techweenie]

Just curious, Island, since your posts run about 90% emotion and 10% fact, what is your 'critical thinking' on the $900 trillion-plus deficit spending of this administration?

[widebody911]

Humor me this - work out these two numbers, then tell me which one is greater.
A: cost to maintain security for 5 estates
B: cost to service $300B (cost of IraqNam) of debt for 20 years (ultra conservative timeline)

Which is greater, A or B?

Show your work.

[SLO-BOB]

sorry-this has become another bandwidth wasting circle. I'm out

[phishhead]

Give it a rest Stromberg, and you too Island.

[CamB]

Steve's article cracks me up. It gets so far through those calculations before not actually giving up the final answer.

Which is $6m pa, or $1.2m/property, or I suspect only either $2.4m or $3.6m more than GWB (he's gotta have at least 2-3 properties).

That is a whopping 1/c per person, per year. Might be 5c per family.