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911S Targa 10-12-2004 01:36 PM

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Did you look at my post?
Yep, even replied to it.

911S Targa 10-12-2004 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Prove I'm not a superhero, logic is a *****.
Meaning ?

smoak 10-12-2004 01:38 PM

Did you look at the report on Purdue study? They spent millions of dollars on it. Heck even used a super computer or two to get it done. How about the CNN video? These don't help? Then look no further than the passenger manifest. WHERE DID THEY GO? Did they get on a UFO and warp on over to mars? Don't you think those people's families would be kinda wondering WHERE THEY WENT FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS??? Charles Burlingame had been flying this route for American in a 757 for YEARS. For some reason he left the house the morning of 9-11 went to work and never returned. Weird huh. Coincidence? Where could he have gone? Where did the others go? Seems like they all "disappeared" the same day. If it wasn't Flight 77, then were are THEY? Just answer that question for yourself and the rest of the BULL$HIT from the videos and websites is settled. I am waiting for the makers of that video, you and anyone else that has a hard time with this just to answer that one simple question. I don't need pictures to tell me things that common sense will answer. You can make a conspiracy out of a cake recipe if you want to, I would rather just make the cake!

911S Targa 10-12-2004 01:48 PM

Hmm, thats why I posted the video.,.,to once again, for somebody to brings FACTS, and PROOF, that whats being brought to the table in this video, is bull****. See, Im not having a hard time of where the plane, or the people are. Again, I asked for somebody to watch the video, and debunk what is being said. Maybe once some get away from the childish insults, we could get down to the issues being brought up in this video.

lendaddy 10-12-2004 01:51 PM

Meaning I can throw anything I want out there and challenge you to debunk it as well. So, debunk the statement that I'm a superhero.

island911 10-12-2004 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by 911S Targa
Hmm, thats why I posted the video.,.,to once again, for somebody to brings FACTS, and PROOF, . ..

Maybe once some get away from the childish insults, . ..

Maybe once you get away from the childish questions. (?)

911S Targa 10-12-2004 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Meaning I can throw anything I want out there and challenge you to debunk it as well. So, debunk the statement that I'm a superhero.
Thats kinda hard to do, since your not showing me anything to debunk, unlike the video.


But obviously Im just waisting my time here, trying to get answers on issues in this video that I didnt, or dont understand.

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Maybe once you get away from the childish questions. (?)
How is asking somebody to watch a video, and debunk some of the issues being brought up, subject to a childish question ? Nice to know, because you dont understand something, and you ask for clairification, your asking a childish question.

island911 10-12-2004 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by 911S Targa
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How is asking somebody to watch a video, and debunk some of the issues being brought up, subject to a childish question ? Nice to know, because you dont understand something, and you ask for clairification, your asking a childish question.

See, the difference is, you have been given answers. . . but like a child, you persist with;

"why?

"but why?

"why?

"but why?

"why?

"but why?

"why?

"but why?

"why?

"but why?

let me guess, you still just don't understand.:rolleyes:

emcon5 10-12-2004 02:17 PM

Ever throw a beer can into a camp fire? Is it a government conspiracy when 20 minutes later the beer can is gone?

:rolleyes:

You demand "FACTS, and PROOF" to refute something which provides nothing more than idiotic wild speculation?

Snopes shoots the pentagon portion it up pretty well.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

There have been 4 or 5 documentaries on the History Channel/Discovery Channel/Learning Channel/Nova as to why the WTC towers collapsed. The short answer, is because it was really ****ing heavy, and Newton will not be denied. You can read more here:
http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/wtc.php#why
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html

Of course, the video could be right. "the computer that ran the whole attack" was in the building next door.

Troll.

red ufo 10-12-2004 02:20 PM

Ya, go look up the passenger flight lists. Count the names, if you neoCONS can count. You'll find 3-9 people missing from the after subracting the alleged terrorists who are listed as John Doe and that's on the list which they won't show you.

How did the FBI figure out who the hijackers were? Just pick out all the arab sounding names. The feds admitted many hijackers were using stolen passports, so we have no idea who really did this but we know the WH wants you to believe arabs did it, based upon no proof.

lendaddy 10-12-2004 02:30 PM

And the video of them getting on the planes. Nevermind, I'm done with this. I and everyone in here is dumber for having participated already.

Why cant crazies just smoke dope and translate Sabbath records like they use to?

island911 10-12-2004 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
.. .Why cant crazies just smoke dope and translate Sabbath records like they use to?
LOL ! :D

turbocarrera 10-12-2004 02:33 PM

Generals gathered in their masses,
just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
sorcerers of death's construction.
In the fields the bodies burning,
as the war machine keeps turning.
Death and hatred to mankind,
poisoning their brainwashed minds.
Oh lord, yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away.
They only started the war.
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah.

Time will tell on their power minds,
making war just for fun.
Treating people just like pawns in chess,
wait till their judgement day comes, yeah.

Now in darkness world stops turning,
ashes where the bodies burning.
No more War Pigs have the power,
Hand of God has struck the hour.
Day of judgement, God is calling,
on their knees the war pigs crawling.
Begging mercies for their sins,
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings.
Oh lord, yeah!

:p

911S Targa 10-12-2004 02:34 PM

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See, the difference is, you have been given answers. . . but like a child, you persist with;
Talk about being a child, grow up. I didnt understand the issues being brought up in the video, of which were NOT answered in any of the links proved by the users in this post. Thats why I asked for somebody to debunk what they are bring to the table. Did I say I believed them, NO, Did I say a plane Didnt crash into the pentagon, NO, etc etc.

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Ever throw a beer can into a camp fire? Is it a government conspiracy when 20 minutes later the beer can is gone?
Sure, Ive thrown a beer can into a fire. 20 min later, yes it was burned, but gone, no.

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You demand "FACTS, and PROOF" to refute something which provides nothing more than idiotic wild speculation?
Yes, I demand facts,like on the jet fuel. If the claim in the video is true, that for as much fuel the plane had in it, it should have burned or singed the inside, top floors of the crash site, of which they claim, and show pics and video that it didnt burn, or singe those floors. But then again, you would have to actualy watch the video, to see what they are saying.

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There have been 4 or 5 documentaries on the History Channel/Discovery Channel/Learning Channel/Nova as to why the WTC towers collapsed. The short answer, is because it was really ****ing heavy, and Newton will not be denied. You can read more here:
I understand that and Ive seen them. So I guess, it must just be true!!!! BUT, doesnt explain what the video shows as A.) a small explosion BEFORE the cockpit of the plane hit the WTC. Plus, it doesnt eplain what they show, to be something on the bottom of the second plane, before it went into the building.

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Of course, the video could be right. "the computer that ran the whole attack" was in the building next door.
Thats the claim, didnt say I believed it, or didnt. AGAIN, I asked for the video to be watched a debunked.

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Troll.
No more then you are.

911S Targa 10-12-2004 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by SoCal911SC
OK, now you've turned me to your side with that convincing argument!

Flight 77 didn't actually hit the tower, all the cell phone calls from Flight 77 saying "we've been hijacked by middle eastern males" and "we're flying very low over the Hudson, heading for NYC" were all fake, and, in fact, Flight 77 never really even existed at all.

Either that, or it was hijacked and all the people aboard are now living in Cuba. Those practical jokers! Good one!

Anyways, your right, this is only a minor detail that doesn't really need any explanation.

Geez, ignorance at its best.

When did I say the plane was NOT hijacked ? SHOW ME PLEASE. When did I say the Planes DIDNT hit the tower ? Again show me.

Im not one of these jack`s who go around, spewing **** on a message board. I have been posting here for over 3 years (just under a new name because I couldnt log in with my first one, 911SC Pilot.) All I was asking was somebody to debunk (or in other words, show me WHY they are WRONG with the info they are presenting in THIS video)

red ufo 10-12-2004 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by SoCal911SC
One of the ways was getting the information from the second guy in charge of the "planes operation" (right behind Bin Laden), Kahlid Sheik Mohammad, who was captured.
The hairy guy was busted long after the FBI list with 19 hijackers, who they admitted some are still alive and victims of identity theft.

UBL never admitted to planning any of this, you'd think he would but he didn't.

911S Targa 10-12-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
And the video of them getting on the planes. Nevermind, I'm done with this. I and everyone in here is dumber for having participated already.

Why cant crazies just smoke dope and translate Sabbath records like they use to?

Thats nice, labeling somebody you dont know anything about.

Adam 10-12-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by emcon5:
There have been 4 or 5 documentaries on the History Channel/Discovery Channel/Learning Channel/Nova as to why the WTC towers collapsed. The short answer, is because it was really ****ing heavy, and Newton will not be denied. You can read more here:
http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/wtc.php#why
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JO...Eagar-0112.html

A serious engineering question, if I may...

Weren't the twin towers constructed with steel frames? I remember reading in a national newspaper that if they were concrete, then the resulting fires wouldn't have distorted and weakened the structure as much as it did. Of course, nobody builds skyscrapers with airliner collision in mind, but is most US heavy construction done in steel?

Around here, most of our large buildings are made out of reinforced concrete. Just a regional nuance, I guess. Any builders/engineers that can comment?

911S Targa 10-12-2004 02:48 PM

Ya, THATS what Im looking for, Engineering experts who can explain what they claim in this video to be true, or false.

But no, I have to be attacked as a Pot smoking, Black Sabbath listening, childish troll.

Interesting, since

A.) Dont smoke pot
B.) Thinks BS is overrated
C.) This is my FIRST 9/11 type post, or political type post in 3 years, but Im a troll.

turbo6bar 10-12-2004 02:53 PM

Adam, if the building was built with reinforced concrete it would have been prohibitively expensive (more $/SF) and the architectural elements would have been compromised. Instead of having huge columns breaking space, the design of the WTC permitted large open spaces. Remember, this structure was built before the time of truly high strength concretes.

Reinforced concrete is good-good stuff.


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