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Mark Wilson 10-13-2004 05:20 PM

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Senator Kerry "I have a plan!"

Mark Wilson 10-13-2004 05:20 PM

plan, plan, plan, plan

pwd72s 10-13-2004 05:28 PM

Don't bother me...I'm watching a ball game...Oh, vote? Gee, my mind was made up months ago...the day Kerry announced he was running.

RallyJon 10-13-2004 05:31 PM

Kerry: "Thank you for that excellent question. However, I'd prefer to read from my prepared script. Now then..."

CamB 10-13-2004 05:45 PM

Kerry: "Thank you for that excellent question. However, I'd prefer to read from my prepared script. Now then..."

An allegation more correctly laid against both candidates :D

JonT 10-13-2004 05:52 PM

I can't watch the debates because when I watch W answer questions off the cuff, I get the same uncomfortable feeling as when I'm watching the Miss Universe contest during the "question phase". I just feel embarassed for him and get an uneasy feeling that something incredibly stupid is going to come out of his mouth. I'm conservative and vote party lines but W is just plain awful in this unscripted Q and A format.

RallyJon 10-13-2004 05:58 PM

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W is just plain awful in this unscripted Q and A format
If performance in this format was a good way to choose a leader, Al Sharpton would be leading the polls.

I confess that I'm disappointed in Bush for not hitting any of Kerry's hanging curveballs. When everyone in the room is screaming at the easy comebacks to Kerry's rhetoric, and yet W can't see the opening. *sigh* :(

rcecale 10-13-2004 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by pwd72s
Don't bother me...I'm watching a ball game...Oh, vote? Gee, my mind was made up months ago...the day Kerry announced he was running.
Was that before or after Kerry announced he "Had a plan"? :rolleyes:

Randy

cowtown 10-13-2004 06:23 PM

OMG - did you hear Kerry say that he "created" the surplus in the 90s so that they could fix Medicare? The guy doesn't even have a real job, and yet as 1/100th of the Senate, he's claiming credit for a federal budget surplus.

Just when I was almost starting to like him after the 1st 2 debates....

fintstone 10-13-2004 06:27 PM

I like the part where he said that .....as a prosecutor..he had stopped organized crime.

UconnTim97 10-13-2004 06:28 PM

Is it just me, but are Bush and Kerry wearing the same suit and tie?

island911 10-13-2004 06:59 PM

oh, man, missed most of it. . . I just got in, and only caught the last few Q's.

Well .. .The word is that the woman voter is the one waiting for GW to "be sensitive" . . show that he can cop to 'mistakes' (screwing thinking, I know:cool: ) If that is the case, GW dunked it.

white87911 10-13-2004 07:04 PM

Well if being smug counts then give it to George Bush.

George Bush still will not answer the abortion question, if you think John Kerry puts a spin on things, man Bush was spin city.

techweenie 10-13-2004 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by cowtown
OMG - did you hear Kerry say that he "created" the surplus in the 90s so that they could fix Medicare?
Was that before or after Bush said he created 1.9 million new jobs...

...and neglected to mention 800,000 were from increasing the size of the Federal payroll... ?

A Quiet Boom 10-13-2004 07:06 PM

No question, Bush won. He kept Kerry on the defensive and exposed his poor (and liberal) senate record. I believe Kerry's tactic of bringing up Cheney's daughter will hurt him because it shows a bit of insensitivity. Bush's answer on that question is the same as mine, I really don't know and I have several gay friends. They don't really know either.

UconnTim97 10-13-2004 07:07 PM

I only caught the last 45 minutes or so, my impression is that Kerry did a lot better than Bush

white87911 10-13-2004 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by techweenie
Was that before or after Bush said he created 1.9 million new jobs...

...and neglected to mention 800,000 were from increasing the size of the Federal payroll... ?

Come on, you know that cant be true, it is those liberal democrats that are for big govement, big defecits and big spending!................wait..............what party is George Bush then?

techweenie 10-13-2004 07:11 PM

Kerry won again.

You'll see it in the polls tomorrow.

And then some here will decide the polls are 'liberal.'

white87911 10-13-2004 07:13 PM

I just cannot vote for someone who will never admit to making a mistake, we all make mistakes, unless you are a computer or God.

And that my friends is pretty scarry.

CamB 10-13-2004 07:21 PM

I believe Kerry's tactic of bringing up Cheney's daughter will hurt him because it shows a bit of insensitivity.

I dunno Christian - what I read (transcript - not as good as listening unfortunately) would be the type of thing that would strike a very strong cord with gay people or those empathetic to equal rights in this area. Mind you - they're probably already all voting for Kerry.

I found all the faith stuff interesting - Kerry pushed the right buttons (for me - obviously not a conservative Christian) as a politician.

Both of them scored a few points against each other - Bush probably hit a few more times but I think Kerry did a pretty good job at least getting some more of what he is about out, as well as "reinforcing" (I'm getting tired of the repetition) a few of Bush's shortcomings.

Mind you, Bush was doing the same (repetition).

So I reckon it was pretty even. They offer quite different philosophies on a lot of these issues, and a fair amount of "no you haven't", "yes I have" on their more common ground.

As an early prediction, this thread should now degenerate into the latter two points from me (repetition, and "now you haven't, yes I have". ;)


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