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Oh, and folks who think Kerry is the most liberal member of Congress, or even close to the most liberal in the Senate......are not doing their own thinking, or their own research.

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Old 11-01-2004, 11:28 AM
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I don't think he's the most liberal member...he has to actually show up to work to be considered that. je je je

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Ok.. Bush is a done deal winner..

so what'll happen to the Dems if Sen Dachle looses, besides castrating the Dem Senate?
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Bush has lost this one, don't kid yourself. They won't manage to keep all young, black or educated people from viting this time.
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There'll be another minority leader. There's more where he came from. Perhaps Senator McDermott. Or Senator Murray. Obviously you get more poundage with McDermott, but dynamite comes in small packages. Senator Murray is only about a hundred pounds, but she's a force to be reckoned with. Or should I say, she's a force with which to be reckoned.
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. Senator Murray is only about a hundred pounds, but she's a force to be reckoned with. Or should I say, she's a force with which to be reckoned.
cool.. I'll keep an eyeball on her..
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Super is pulling your leg

Patty Murray--
"We've got to ask, why is this man (Osama bin Laden) so popular around the world?," said Murray, who faces re-election in 2004. "Why are people so supportive of him in many countries … that are riddled with poverty?

"He's been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven't done that.

"How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?"
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Let me add;

Kerry, as POTUS, will make this rift between left & right even deeper.

If you think Clinton was demonized, just wait for Kerry.

Kerry already has a HUGE population of PO'd Vietnam vet's.

Kerry has feigned (barely) a centrist image for the election. However he is has been so far left that even liberals will be embarassed by his pontifications on policy matters.

Currently Bush admin, is mellowing. Bush will no doubt clean some house. A kerry admin would be a true disaster for all of us. . . and a huge embarasment for this country, and the Dem's in particular.
Allow me to...um...break your ***** down, Dr. I:

1) Rifts: bitterness is as bitterness does. Repubs hamstrung Clinton over blowing a nut on a blue dress. That was just plain bitter. In the meantime, OBL was allowed to build up resources toward 9/11. Bitter and short-sided about real issues. What was the end result - rifts - rifts deepened, no less, by Bush's suspicious war and the ill-fated side effects of Socal Security breaking down as well as health care.

2) Demonized - by who? Are you laying out the Republican playbook before the man gets elected? Or, conversely, are you saying Kerry will win?

3) P.O'd Vietnam vets - I think America has p.o.'d Vietnam vets, and p.o.'d for various reasons. Swift boat vets don't account for all of them. Have you considered the amount of Vietnam vets who see Iraq and say to themselves, "Hmmm...that looks very familiar?" Who should they be p.o.'d at?

4) I'm still looking for Kerry's left-sided stance. If it's about military reduction, Cheney has to be the new Che Guevara poster child since he's concurrently supportive of military cuts.

5) Bush will not mellow. He's created a maelstrom of the world that his doggedness of himself and his policies that will not allow him to mellow out toward - even if he wanted. Secondly, Bush cannot mellow either internationally nor domestically since to him, "mellowing" will show weakness. OTOH, the best Kerry can hope for is to inherit this with some reasonable acumen toward a better solution and better int'l relations.

It only goes to show you one man's arrogance is another man's ignorance.
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I don't think he's the most liberal member...he has to actually show up to work to be considered that. je je je

Sorry, this Topic needed some humor badly
He had between a 95% to 99% voting turnout from as far as I can find, from 1999-2002. I presume 2003 was spent on work toward beating your buddy (a worthwhile cause).
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Chill out Chick. Don't make me start posting my political opinions again.

Take a joke for what it is........
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Rifts: bitterness is as bitterness does.

You are right to identify that bitterness drives bitterness.

though, Hmmm, you've seem to have glossed-over Michael Moores contribution to the bitterness. . . .Dan Rathers on going campaign of bitterness.

. . The Kerry Lies which go unchallenged by the mainstream press. Kerrys military records still not released.

I'm just telling you what I expect to see if the Dem's steals this election. The bitterness likely will go to a breaking point.

Oh well, I guess it has to end sometime.

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Allow me to...um...break your ***** down, . . .


It only goes to show you one man's arrogance is another man's ignorance.

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Oh, and folks who think Kerry is the most liberal member of Congress, or even close to the most liberal in the Senate......are not doing their own thinking, or their own research.
Well he's not the first to say it. . .

" There’s a reason Bush calls Kerry the Number One Liberal in the Senate – THAT’S BECAUSE HE IS THE NUMBER ONE LIBERAL IN THE SENATE! What more do you want? My friends, this is about as good as it gets when voting for the Democrat. We don’t have the #29 Liberal running or the #14 Liberal or even the #2 Liberal – we got #1! When has that ever happened?
Those of us who may be to the left of the #1 liberal Democrat should remember that this year conservative Democrats have had to make a far greater shift in their position to back Kerry than we have. We’re the ones always being asked to make the huge compromises and to always vote holding our noses. No nose holding this time. This #1 liberal is not the tweedledee to Bush’s tweedledum.

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so now you believe michael moore?

any proof that Kerry is the number 1 liberal in the senate? Tell us his specific voting record on all the issues that determine Kerry is the number 1 liberal.
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On a scale that ranges from 0 to 100, Mr. Kerry compiled a composite liberal score for 2003 of 96.5, the highest in the Senate. He eclipsed proud liberals like Paul Sarbanes (94.7) of Maryland, Barbara Boxer (91.2) of California, Tom Harkin (89.3) of Iowa and the Senate's liberal lion, Edward Kennedy (88.3), his Massachusetts colleague. It was the fourth time in his 20-year Senate career that Mr. Kerry compiled a composite voting record that was unsurpassed in its liberalism by any of the other 99 members of the Senate.
Each year, National Journal selects dozens of key votes (62 for the Senate in 2003) and divides them among three categories of issues: economic, social and foreign policy. On economic votes, Mr. Kerry tied with six other Democrats to claim the highest ranking of 93. It was the third year in a row that Mr. Kerry established himself among the select, small group whose members were cumulatively ranked as the most liberal in the Senate on economic matters.
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Yeah Mark. . that's good, and everything. But these anybody but Bushers really won't believe it unless it comes from their favorite source, Michael Moore.

Of course, even then, if it doesn't fit with what they want to believe, they will continue to troll for more information. . . .never satisfied with the source, or whatever. (note cc's "I need more proof")

Yep, Kerry has the young, naive, impressionable types. . . no doubt about it.
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Bush has lost this one, don't kid yourself. They won't manage to keep all young, black or educated people from viting this time.
And I thought it was democrats that were supposedly kept from voting?
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I don't know Island, the libs have this new up and coming star they may follow - I think his name was Osama or something....
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Bush has lost this one, don't kid yourself. They won't manage to keep all young, black or educated people from viting this time.
This would assume that all young, black or educated people will vite for Kerry, I'm sure quite a fair number will be viting for Bush.

Of course treating all black people as one giant ghetto-ridden viting block is not only a racist idea of the left, it's also why so many are turning turning out to vite for Bush; you know they like to think of themselves as individuals.

As for the educated thing....education does not equal intellect, and niether is a reliable measure of success, but it is the self-professed superior intellect of much of the left that lines the pockets of the Moores and the Soros's at the drop of a simple marketing ploy and it is also that which leads to the canonization of Massachusetts liberals and Middle Eastern terrorists.

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