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LynnsABCs 10-29-2004 01:57 PM

Repubs Ignore song copyrights???
 
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bryanthompson 10-29-2004 02:00 PM

I don't think there's any legal grounds to this. Just an angry musician who doesn't want people to enjoy his music.

You know... When someone like, oh I don't know, Rosie O'Donnel, Bono, Madonna, Dixie chicks, etc. says something inccredibly stupid and people decide to stop supporting them (people stop buying or listneing to their garbage) they scream CENSORSHIP! HELP, HELP, I'm Being REPRESSED!

Now this guy doesn't want his music being heard by... bush supporters? HUH?

concentric 10-29-2004 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
I don't think there's any legal grounds to this. Just an angry musician who doesn't want people to enjoy his music.

You know... When someone like, oh I don't know, Rosie O'Donnel, Bono, Madonna, Dixie chicks, etc. says something inccredibly stupid and people decide to stop supporting them (people stop buying or listneing to their garbage) they scream CENSORSHIP! HELP, HELP, I'm Being REPRESSED!

Now this guy doesn't want his music being heard by... bush supporters? HUH?

You don't know what you're talking about. You can't use copyrighted material for public performance or broadcast without the permission of the copyrighter. Ever see that FBI warning in front of every movie ever made in the recent past? Same deal.

bryanthompson 10-29-2004 02:09 PM

The only people the Bush Campaign would have to pay are BMI or ASCAP depending on who licences the damn song.

Do you have any proof that they Don't pay those fees?

bryanthompson 10-29-2004 02:12 PM

Nope what, you don't have proof or nope they don't pay fees?

concentric 10-29-2004 02:16 PM

1. You have to join BMI and ASCAP and sign a license agreement for that to apply.

2. It is extremely bad form to use an artists material without asking them permission, FIRST especially since most of the license agreements referenced above are meant for broadcast only, not private events. I would be mucho pissed if someone use my music for something political, regardless of the bent without clearing it first. This is the stuff that lawsuits are made of, especially if there is revenue generating activity involved.

[edited for a typo only]

bryanthompson 10-29-2004 02:25 PM

Do political campaigns have to get permission to play every song that they play, or do they just pay licensing fees to the larger bodies and wait for someone to ask them to stop playing one of the songs?

304065 10-29-2004 02:33 PM

Well, on the face of it, in the absence of a license for public use, the campaign should cease and desist from using the song.

There are plenty of performers who would be happy to have their music played all over the country by the campaign.

Hall can take his place alongside the Dixie Chicks and Springsteen. And Cher, for that matter.

bryanthompson 10-29-2004 02:34 PM

Aside from the legal crap...

Don't you think its amusing that if we stop listening or buying their crap they yell and scream about being censored, but if we do listen to their crap, they don't want us to?

juanbenae 10-29-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
Aside from the legal crap...

Don't you think its amusing that if we stop listening or buying their crap they yell and scream about being censored, but if we do listen to their crap, they don't want us to?

bryan, you are beginning to repeat yourself. what will be your tactic next week when bush is voted out?

and by the way STFU already.

Kevin Powers 10-30-2004 12:58 PM

no deference between the song and your car. do you let peolpe drive it without permission? i'll be so relieved when the election is over and the dust settles. the division of the citizens it has caused is truely frightening. it will be an unpleasant 4 years, regardless of who is elected.

kevin

Tyson Schmidt 10-30-2004 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by k911sc
bryan, you are beginning to repeat yourself. what will be your tactic next week when bush is voted out?

and by the way STFU already.


Give the guy a break. He owns a 944, so he clearly is mildly retarded. Type slower, and maybe he'll figure it out after ten more posts.

island911 10-30-2004 05:15 PM

is mildly retarded, eh?

. . but you think that the frustrated guy say'n "STFU already." is ...? . . .maybe a rocket surgeon? :rolleyes:

real550A 10-30-2004 06:13 PM

Quote:

next week when bush is voted out?
You might get a lot of takers for a piece of that action!

Bush will get 300 electoral votes.

on-ramp 10-30-2004 06:35 PM

It's very nice to know that our law-makers and politicians at the top choose not to follow their own copyright laws, esp. those that occupy the white house, laws that THEY put on the books.
It's the holier than thou attitude, you have to follow these laws but they dont apply to us because we're special.
there's a revolution coming in this country in about 10 years, the people will rise up....

Mark Wilson 10-30-2004 06:50 PM

Hey Lynn,
Didn't you get busted a while back for copyright infringement on your hats?

nostatic 10-30-2004 07:01 PM

probably trademark infringement with the hats.

The basics of copyright:

http://www.gigalaw.com/articles/2000-all/loc-2000-03-all.html

Some info on fair use:

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/9-c.html

http://www.gigalaw.com/articles/2000-all/gall-2000-12-all.html

cowtown 10-30-2004 08:43 PM

All I know is that Clinton ruined Fleetwood Mac for me...forever.


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