WTF? Are these the desperate hours?
 

I detect a tone of "worry" in some of today's threads. Surely it can't be...

...or can it? :confused:

It can be, and stop calling me Shirley.

I'm beginning to wonder myself.

What’s that? Bush has a drinking problem?

I've noticed myself....

Since when is drinking a problem.

What?

Me, worry?

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The media's just praaaaying for another 2000, it's making me sick. Bush's gonna win 53-47, no questions. We'll all go on to live our wonderful, happy lives. tra-la-la :D

This election needs to be decisive.

A few counties in Ohio have more people on the voter rolls than adults living in each of those counties.

Considering the Dem's "win at any cost". .scratch that. Considering the Dem's "beat Bush at any cost" mentality, it has me worried.

Stuffing ballot boxes does not lead to good out comes.

It's the Republicans in Ohio that are sending 'challengers' to the polls in heavily Democrat areas to challenge voters and slow down the process. The principle is that you can make people wait more than 15-30 minutes, they won't vote.

And it was the CEO of Diebold - the company that makes voting machines - who publicly stated he would do everything he could to deliver Ohio's vote to Bush.

Thom -

They're not sending "challengers", observers or any body else who could help monitor and prevent fraud

I haven't seen the latest polls, but dead, imaginary and/or canine voters traditionally break heavily Democratic, so this open door to fraud can only aid Democrats.

JP

Well thanks for trying to make me feel better Thom . . .but what you say doesn't pass the pale.

Diebold (or other) electronic voting machines are absolutly WRONG.

Our voting is fast becoming a JOKE. NAACP signing up crack-heads, to put Dick Tracey, Mary Poppins et al on the voter rolls . . to vote absentee . . .what a joke.

Voting needs to be show-up, or shut-up.

Whats wrong with my dogs voting....

...but it's okay for Republicans to sign up phony voter registration tables and throw away Democrat registrants? It's a pretty well-documented scam pulled in Nevada and Oregon, in case you missed it.

Not to mention the ever-famous 'expanded possible felon list' scam that worked so well in Florida that it's been exported to other states. Not to mention that it's being worked again in... wait for it... Florida.

You might be interested in this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1340190,00.html?=rss

Oh Techie that picture of Bushy is really good....

OK if U children can't play nice...we just won't have anymore elections....

What kind of dogs are they?

Republican Party officials in Ohio took formal steps yesterday to place thousands of recruits inside polling places on Election Day to challenge the qualifications of voters they suspect are not eligible to cast ballots.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/23/politics/campaign/23vote.html

Every non-felon, voting-age US citizen deserves the right to vote. What about people who aren't in the country, they can't vote? What if you're in the military, doing missionary work, Peace Corps, CIA, etc.? You don't have the right to vote?

Are you kidding me??? What if you have a family emergency outside the country, or in another state... you shouldn't be allowed to vote absentee???

I sure hope you're not serious, because you could be in one of the above situations one day. And I'd like to see how you'd feel hearing that someone doesn't deserve to vote absentee or out of precinct.

The real problem is there is no way being made available tooptimize the use of technology to the fullest.

For example:

1. Voter has a pin/SSN to vote. Voter must also enter a valid state ID or Driver's License #, sort of like a username/password.

2. Each voters votes instaly go into the web, encrypted, to multiple unbiased counting firms, to be counted and documented. Each party headquarters also receives votes and voters real-time.

3. Each voters code can be used only once, no matter where they are voting from.

4. Voters are thoroughly screened for identity prior to voting. People interfering with voters in any way are arrested for conspiracy to overthrow the government, and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Just an idea...

This went to court Sunday. The judge struck the Republicans down, I think.

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Here are 2 new registered Repnlicans....GO BUSH...

show-up, or shut-up.
 

The thing is, the problems of voter fraud (either real or perceived) threatens our Democracy.

As the military has large numbers of identifiable US citizens, they are like a US town. Setting up voting for them is no big deal.

For those sprinkled about other countries; tough. That would be the cost. The benefit would be a more stable process.

What good is it now, if your missionary in Sudan casts a ballot for Bush, only to be canceled by 5 dead kerry voters?

make it stop....

Ohhh Nostatus...just wait till the election results hits the courts...this Board is going to erupt....

I personally am not taking anything too seriously anymore...I have voiced my opinion and my analysis of the situation...either the boyz have listened by now or they never will.

Re: show-up, or shut-up.
 

How can 5 dead Kerry voters show a valid government issued ID prior to using the encrypted secure digital voting booth? What do you see in my theoretical voting process that won't work? Be specific. I know lefties and righties have a hard time being specific when asked a direct question, but humor me and at least try...

Voting needs obvious inherent stability.

Bodies showing up to vote, on paper, provide these things . .. to a large degree.

. ..Sent-in forms & Machines of unknown workings do NOT provide.

Very cute.

And easy to spot as Repubs, because they have their blinders on...

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Re: Re: show-up, or shut-up.
 

They can't - there are no excrypted secure digital voting booths!

Great idea, but it will never happen. Too much invested in shady voting. Look at Oregon. Non-citizens can register to vote when they get a drivers license. No ID check at the polls. You think they will let that change? No way.

Irish or Lakeland or Wheaten Terriers?

Now go vote!!!

The Republicans get the green light to slow down the voting in Ohio.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/2004/la-na-ohiovote2nov02,0,3514993.story?coll=la-home-headlines

GWB's jobs program
 

$75/day to wave a Bush/Cheney sign.

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004110101010

Who says it will never happen. The "it will never happen" mentality is what keeps us from making progress. Write your congressmen and senators and make it a suggestion. If enough people hound them, something can get done...