Alan Colmes is a broken record

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by fintstone
It is a simple concept. being Anti-war/anti-military to the extreme....is certainly not in the best interests of the nation. Some examples:

As a civilian, supporting/meeting with the enemy during an ongoing war

Lying about personal experiences during a war to hurt the political reputation/cause of your country

Voting to deprive troops of necessary funding during an ongoing war that you voted to approve

Voting against every possible combination of weapons during peacetime ....that your nation could use to defend itself if ever drwn into a war

Using the bully pulpit of a Senator and presidentiual candidate to mischaracterize a war and your country's motives....for partisan politics

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Those are really small examples in the face of the much bigger world picture of diplomacy via communication. Every, and I mean every business book, Fortune 500 C-level and management consultant out there says communication is the key to success. Running the world isn't very different from running departments, say in Cisco Systems. You've got Marketing, Sales, IT, Support, Production, etc. When all of them communicate and work together, the whole company wins. This is incontrovertible. Now instead of the Cisco, think of the world, instead of departments, we have countries.

Honestly, I'd really like to know why republicans are so prone to "us against them," instead of understanding what they want/need and working together to achieve results. They see war as the solution to everything. Why do they think so small?

Sound kind of Utopian? Sure, but God, at least make an effort.

[fintstone]

I see it as just the opposite. The liberals are determine to make any action perceived as "taken or supported by conservatives" fail; regardless of the detrimental effect on this country or its people. War is seen by conservatives as a last resort....but once the decision is made to fight a war; they will not do anything to hinder our troops or help the enemy. That is only true for Democrats if it is a Democratic administration (like in Yugoslavia). Otherwise they are in bed with the enemy.

Those who think that no regime or act is so evil or no cause is so just or righteous that our nation should go to war...are the ones thinking small.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by fintstone
I see it as just the opposite. The liberals are determine to make any action perceived as "taken or supported by conservatives" fail;
regardless of the detrimental effect on this country or its people.

There are so many comebacks to this one I can't choose just one. Dude, are you serious? Are you that paranoid? Do you really think any one group could organize enough to do this? What happened to you when you were 8?


War is seen by conservatives as a last resort....but once the decision is made to fight a war; they will not do anything to hinder our troops or help the enemy. That is only true for Democrats if it is a Democratic administration (like in Yugoslavia). Otherwise they are in bed with the enemy.

Uh, yeah, we went to war in Iraq as the last thing we could possibly do. what exactly was the threat again?

Those who think that no regime or act is so evil or no cause is so just or righteous that our nation should go to war...are the ones thinking small.

So you think exchanging 1100+ US lives for Iraqi lives was the right thing to do? 10,000 wounded, many disfigured for life. You think they agree. What did we get that price?

War is ALWAYS the smallest thought, the most narrow, the least informed. It is an instinct that goes back to prehistory. It is a big hammer when ratchet is required. It is humanity at it's worst. to argue anything else is subhuman and truly de-evolved.

I feel sorry for you man. I'd love to meet to see what you are really like.

[Moneyguy1]

I am afraid fint is serious. The world is "us vs them" and very black and white. And, you ARE the enemy since you question. Can't you get that? Also..remember: You MUST respond to any question with another question rather rhan an answer.

But, like with the Mirror, I defend his right to say whatever he wishes. At least, for the time being, this is still a free country.....

BTW...lying about things seems to be the de rigour...For a moral party, considerable effort was used in misquotes, partial quotes and things taken out of context. Isn't bearing false witness also a sin and oone of the big ten? Interesting the internal contradictions.

We know little about posters since anyone can be anything they might claim to be. It would be interesting to find out how many who advocate war have been shot at in anger...We will never know for sure.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
I am afraid fint is serious. The world is "us vs them" and very black and white. And, you ARE the enemy since you question. Can't you get that? Also..remember: You MUST respond to any question with another question rather rhan an answer.

You are sooooo right Bob. IMHO, that's the real reason the republicans won. the democrats have cowered for 3 years (the press too) under Bush's "if you aren't with us, you are against us." Anyone not supporting the war, anyone questioning actions or directions, is labeled unpatriotic. "You won't need these, thank you very much." Picture Bush's hand grabbing the balls of a dog with democrats written on the side and ripping them away. I only wish I could draw!

Here's the truth. Anyone not questioning government, giving any administration a blank check, is the greatest traitor of them all. Sorry for the all caps, BUT THIS IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Questioning government is the key to freedom.

What I really want to see though is the battle between Old Guard Republicans and the new power of the Religious Right. I have great respect for many of the tenants in true conservatism, in fact I am very fiscally conservative. But this new religious fundamentalism that seeks to legislate our bedrooms, let alone our lives, is in direct contradiction to the values of so many old white men with money.