I am happy with 6 figures in the manufacturing or strategy sector. I dont plan on working for a company much longer... I have a few products I am developing.

Gee, If you are so concerned with their plight.....I invite you to join them. I'm sure they could use a learned man like you in Fallujah.

Oh so US troops blew them up, they fought back, so they are terrorists. Not that there is any evidence they are or were terrorists. The news tonight said there are 2 more similar cases that happened in the same area at that time. Footage will be out soon I suspect.

Do you think there will be any left by the time I get there?

You don't want to go help the poor, defenseless, insurgent, freedom fighters? I bet they would let you wear a mask and behead civilians too.

Hmm...some interesting posts here. All I can say is that being in the military, I would've done the exact same thing the marine did. If I ever felt my life in danger, I'd start shooting.

I though you gave up. . .. 30min's latter, and this is all you've got?

I mean, sure, the first bit is funny. . . but this other part; how can you give something you don't have? :cool:

Geez man, ya can't even answer a simple (no tricks) direct question.

I'm noticing a pattern with you:

Total
Redirect
Of
Logic
Line

Focus man . . . focus.

The simple may become obvious.

Ok nice reply, but nothing of the redirection I gave you to the topic of contention... the metaphor about the contract... try, just try.

By the way, nice editing where I gave you the clue about it being about the contract you tried to apply to your argument. Very Trollish of you.

I mean I even tell you you made a metaphor about the contract then said there was no contract... and you call me a troll because you cant make the connection, very defensive of you.

You guys on the right have always had difficulty distinguishing the two, I suspect you always will (only way to easily justify Bush's actions in your mind I suppose.)

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Of the more than 1,000 men between the ages of 15 and 55 who were captured in intense fighting in the center of the insurgency over the last week, just 15 are confirmed foreign fighters, Gen. George W. Casey, the top U.S. ground commander in Iraq, said Monday.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/la-fg-fighters16nov16,0,19927.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

Now you're putting me in the very uncomfortable position of defending the war by saying that your scenario is not analogous at all. I know what you're getting at-I would do the same if our country was invaded. However, fortunately for you and I, we live in free countries not ruled by an insane dictator. I am against this war, but I do feel the Iraqi people will ultimately benefit from it. I think they felt that way too-this based on media coverage of Iraqis cheering on US troops as well as interviews with Iraqi born residents in the U.S. among other things. I'm sure the prospect of living in a world without torture and spontaneous public execution held a certain appeal. No doubt the luster of that vision has worn a bit due to having to live in a war zone. I don't blame them. But-this is not an invasion to take over Iraq-even I believe that!

So-if you have the will of the majority on your side, but a relative few are trying to kill you, what do you call them? Rebels? Insurgents? Patriots? Terrorists? Again-that's been another distinction that is not so easy to decipher, historically speaking. Depends on who's doing the labeling I guess. However, I'll bet to some guy fighting for the lives of people he never met before, in a land far from home, it's a non-issue.

Seriously-cut these guys some slack until you know what the whole story is.

This is the same tactic used by my ex.

That Marine did nothing wrong. Anyone who judges him from the safety of their home or office disgusts me.

Better 1,000 dead Iraqis than 1 dead United States Marine.

If the situation were reversed, yes I would be outraged, and I am comfortable being labeled a hypocrite in that respect.

God Bless our armed forces at home and abroad.

Hey 952, you got a picture of osama haning on your wall? You spout a lot of anti-American crap for a guy who would be speaking Japanese if it weren't for Marines like the one you're attacking. This goes for Purry and Joe Clark as well, where the hell is all your righteous indignation about the murdering muslims blowing that poor womans brains out. Is it only an issue when you can say something bad about America. Maybe someday soon the practicioners of the religion of peace can blow up a koala nest or whatever you have down there of any value and you can do like all these high minded critics of the USA always do when the **** hits the fan, get out your knee pads & come begging for help!

Wow. That's some heavily racist, nationalistic, dangerous idealogy. To me it sounds a lot like a Nazi refering to Jews.

It seems to me that New Zealand's foreign policy steps on a lot less toes than ours- I highly doubt any terrorist faction has ill feelings towards NZ nevermind an agenda regarding them. Isn't it funny how countries that don't get people pissed off with biased foreign policy don't get themselves into trouble? Yea, that's right, people dieing in Iraq is trouble. The admin made it sound like we'd walk right in and they would rejoice- apparently not.

BTW, good show 952. It oft takes someone outside a realm to accurately diagnose it; its too bad people choose to get hung up on your locale.

Fint, yes, these people are freedom fighters. Did we not hide behind stone walls in the revolution when the common tactic at the time was opposing lines of firing soldiers? De we not where our normal clothing and not uniforms? And if we're such great liberators, why have so many freedom fighters chosen to challenge us? Perhaps the Iraqi's consider tanks and blackhawks unfair, because they lack these advantages. But they can set a booby trap, why not? Cheers to them for using (what we in our country claim to be) some traditional American, patriotic ideology- fighting for one's country, even giving one's life. I have to think, with insurgents actually living over there, they might have a better informed opinion and reasoning on why they chose to fight then we do analyzing them here.

That's where I stopped reading. Nuff said.

Absolutely, those who take up arms and uniforms and fight alongside our marines and under the Iraqi flag are indeed freedom fighters; they fight for freedom and the rights that most of us take for granted and they fight to bring those freedoms and rights to all Iraqis, even the ones who would oppressed and murdered them and their wives and children. They fight against those who would return a murderous dictator to power or who would turn Iraq into breeding ground for international terrorism under the flag of religion.
Freedom fighters indeed.

Let me re-interate for you klaukle, thats some pretty bold **** from somebody whose mother & daughters would be whores for Japanese soldiers were it not for the USA.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by klaucke
[B]Wow. That's some heavily racist, nationalistic, dangerous idealogy. To me it sounds a lot like a Nazi refering to Jews.


Klaucke,

The fact that you compare me to a Nazi is so insulting, I cannot begin to express my outrage. If we were face-to-face I would be unable to control my rage and would inflict serious bodily harm to your person.

I cannot believe you guys. We are NOT an invading force, we are NOT trying to take over their country, we are NOT going to rape their resources, we will NOT plant our flag and tax them. Do you honestly not see the difference? Freedom fighters? Holy balls is that stupid!

If they stopped attacking our men the elections would be held and for the most part we would leave as they established their own leadership/governmental system. Does this sound like an invading force to you? Grow up, this is nothing like what you make it out to be.

As much as you would like to believe the US is an Empire ever looking to expand it's borders, it is simply not the case. Agree or disagree with our logic for going into Iraq but I cannot imagine someone so ignorant as to think we actually want to "absorb" Iraq as a possession.