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dd74 11-16-2004 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by jm951
Do you really think that every thing the NSA does on a daily basis should be the subject of the NYT and the media, all for your personal consumption and critique? Now that's one really stupid way to run a security agency.
"Yes" to the first question. Was the second question also a question or a personal viewpoint?

fintstone 11-16-2004 08:33 PM

Looks like a pretty nice smile to me.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100668971.jpg

it is killing the liberals...Bush appoints an hispanic attorney General, the first black man, then the first black woman to Secretary of State (She may also be the first woman...if the Madeline Albright stories are true...LoL...).
Now they have to spend four more years trying to convince blacks and hispanics that conservatives are racists and that these are somehow "Uncle Toms" instead of brilliant hardworking folks who happen to have a different skin color.
Worse yet, they know that Coni is much smarter than ther fem hope Hillary...who would still be a small town lawyer doing dishonest real estate deals if not for Bill.

bryanthompson 11-16-2004 08:38 PM

Anyone have a guess on how many blacks Clinton appointed to his cabinet? Any guesses as to how many minorities in general have ever directly worked with Clinton?

WOODPIE 11-16-2004 08:48 PM

Yeah, it's just killing me...........:rolleyes:

Here we are, discussing performance of a few government officials, and you play the race card. I don't see anyone else here but you mentioning skin color. Why is that so focking important to you?

Ed

jm951 11-16-2004 08:53 PM

The race card is constantly played by the DNC, yet it seems that the GOP seems to the the group putting the "money where their mouth is" when it comes to minorities in positions of power. Unless you consider Sharpton or Jackson to be legit candidates for SecState.

DD-
A vehement NO to what you think should be on display in the media. The same thing was attempted by McCormick with the Chicago Times publishing the fact that we had broken the Japanese codes. Had they found that out, it could have resulted in the deaths of thousands of Americans. Still want to tell the world everything we know?

dd74 11-16-2004 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by jm951
DD-
A vehement NO to what you think should be on display in the media. The same thing was attempted by McCormick with the Chicago Times publishing the fact that we had broken the Japanese codes. Had they found that out, it could have resulted in the deaths of thousands of Americans. Still want to tell the world everything we know?

Well, for all I know, we don't have any big secrets to keep from the world. Aren't we spreading democracy?

fintstone 11-16-2004 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by WOODPIE
Yeah, it's just killing me...........:rolleyes:

Here we are, discussing performance of a few government officials, and you play the race card. I don't see anyone else here but you mentioning skin color. Why is that so focking important to you?

Ed

I am just enjoying how everything wacko liberals say is proven untrue. And yes...it didn't take you long...I feel your pain. No wonder the nation has totally rejected your agenda. It is almost to the point where you can just assume if a liberal said it...it is most likely a lie. Thank you Mikey Moore, Woodpie, Rev Sharpton, etc.

Race card? That is a laugh coming from the a liberal...whose party's line was that black churches would burn throughout the south if Bush was elected....LOL

Oh, did I say that Condi was from the South too....you know one of those red states that liberals claim are full of stupid people.

Get a grip. It is going to be a long 4 years for guys like you.

WOODPIE 11-16-2004 09:02 PM

Oh, excuse me, my fault. I thought we were discussing cabinet appointments. By all means, carry on with your bit about which political party likes black people more.

fintstone 11-16-2004 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by WOODPIE
Oh, excuse me, my fault. I thought we were discussing cabinet appointments. By all means, carry on with your bit about which political party likes black people more.
Oh, then somone else made this post using your name?

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Her "people skills" are on par with those of Porter Goss.

Bush is loading his cabinet with Yes men. And women. If we can believe Aurel's pictures.

Ed

Yep...some really high level discussion regarding qualifications.....Duh

MichiganMat 11-17-2004 07:54 AM

Unfortunately for us it won't matter what she screws up, the GOP will just change the laws to accomodate her.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/17/delay.ap/index.html

She could have her photo take with the latest poster-boy at Abu-Gharib, bribe Halliburton to set up her kids birthday party, and run over a crowd of protesters, and I don't think anyone on the right would even bat an eyelash.

Bastards.

tabs 11-17-2004 12:47 PM

How do I explain this....Condie Rice is so trusted by GW that her opinion is the final arbitrator...you might say Condie does GW's thinking on Foreign Affairs. So once in place at Secratary of State you won't see much difference in FP....We'll just have to see how skillfull of a negioater she is...

Condie is the Scarcrows Brain....

fintstone 11-18-2004 09:18 PM

The following is from an article by Peggy Noonan:

You want to discuss the appointment of Condi Rice to State. Ssssshhhhhhhh.
She is a good person; she has experience and accomplishments; she is stable, hardworking and sophisticated. She is also--this is breathtaking, still--a young black woman raised to the position first held by Thomas Jefferson. It is considered corny to point this out. But corny's not all bad. Look at it this way. In every U.S. embassy and consulate in the world very soon, non-Americans will walk in to see two things: a picture of the American president and next to it a picture of the young black woman who is this nation's secretary of state. They will notice this, and consciously or not they will think: This truly must be some kind of country.

Is there a drawback to her appointment? There must be. There is a drawback to everything. The Bush cabinet is getting very Bushian. That sends a clear message. But you don't always want to send a clear message. Sometimes you want to confuse things. Sometimes you want to give an unclear message to the world so that it will sit down and scratch its head, in silence. When Colin Powell was secretary of state, foreign leaders didn't know exactly where he stood, either in terms of policy or internally, in his place in the Bush hierarchy. It confused them. This was so wonderful. They confided all sorts of things to him because they didn't know what he'd respond to or how or what he'd bring home and wouldn't. It's good when foreign leaders confide. It can be good when they don't know. More head scratching, I say. More "ssssshhhhhhhh."

The criticism of Ms. Rice has been fascinating. Her critics need to sit down and have a Coke, as Bob Dole said. A friend said to me yesterday, "She is boring." I thought, really? You can't be boring enough; we've had quite enough excitement.

Another person said, "She's not very feminine." My first thought was: Neither was Colin.

My second thought was: How startling is this conversation? I should probably explain it was held in Manhattan.

"I think she is extremely ladylike in her bearing and manner," I said. "Soft voice, pastel suits, heels, not a hair out of place."

"Yes," my friend said, "but she doesn't give off any sparks of sexuality."

"That's another thing I like about her", I said. We don't want a secretary of state running around giving off sparks of sexuality, do we. We don't want a secretary of state giving off sparks at all. We want a nice, quiet, calming, competent, sophisticated, even-keeled person to do a good, solid, nonshowy job.

Why do I think President Bush picked her? Because he knows her, trusts her, and knows she'll take care of State while he takes care of the CIA, which will be another great Bushian battle. She managed the National Security Council; she'll manage State. It's fine. Don't fuss. Ssssshhhhhhhh.

That is good advice for the CIA, too. What has been happening there is remarkable. That we would have our central foreign intelligence agency OKing attack books that knock White House foreign policy, and during a close presidential campaign is remarkable, unprecedented, not good. The strangeness and immaturity of the resigning CIA officials' complaint--that Porter Goss's Hill staffers, new to the agency, had been rude to them--was best captured by Cliff May in National Review Online. May said: Would James Bond whine that Moneypenny had been rude to him? Would he run to Q and say, She got in my face, she was brusque, boo-hoo?

I don't think so. I think he'd suck it up and have a moody drink. I think James Bond would look at the members of the American intelligence and say, "Ssssshhhhhhhh."

cool_chick 11-19-2004 04:03 AM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Looks like a pretty nice smile to me.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100668971.jpg

it is killing the liberals...Bush appoints an hispanic attorney General, the first black man, then the first black woman to Secretary of State (She may also be the first woman...if the Madeline Albright stories are true...LoL...).
Now they have to spend four more years trying to convince blacks and hispanics that conservatives are racists and that these are somehow "Uncle Toms" instead of brilliant hardworking folks who happen to have a different skin color.
Worse yet, they know that Coni is much smarter than ther fem hope Hillary...who would still be a small town lawyer doing dishonest real estate deals if not for Bill.

Oh yeah, that's important. Load up the cabinet with women/minorities instead of loading up the cabinet with COMPETENCY.

You do have a point. Damn liberals are just dying here, I can feel it. They're literally dying here. It's HORRIBLE...how they're just DYING here....I feel the pain (BTW, you're just plain silly sometimes with your "liberal" crap).

cegerer 11-19-2004 04:06 AM

Did somebody mention race? Well, here's how the elitist liberal political cartoonists at the esteemed New York Times and Washington Post view Rice ......

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100869362.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100869374.gif

And then there's Doonesbury and his 'brown sugar' reference ..... :rolleyes:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100869457.gif

Can you imagine the firestorm in the media had such racial attacks been directed toward a black liberal? Well, this is just the start of the fun, IMHO. Wait til she gets the Presidential nomination in '08 ..... we'll see the liberal media's "true colors", shall we say. ;)

cool_chick 11-19-2004 04:07 AM

Damn liberals! They all should burn in hell!

kach22i 11-19-2004 09:02 AM

This just in:

LAURA BUSH RESIGNS AS FIRST WIFE
Bush to name Condoleeza Rice as new First Wife;
White House spokesman expects easy confirmation in the Senate


November 18, 2004. Washington. The Bush Administration announced today that yet another member of Team Bush will be leaving the White House. Today, Laura Bush announced her resignation as First Wife. She said she would stay on until a replacement was confirmed. It is expected that President Bush will nominate Condoleeza Rice, currently head of the National Security Council. The Senate, dominated by the GOP, is expected to quickly support the Rice as First Wife.

"During the last four years I've relied on her counsel, benefited from her great experience, and appreciated her sound and steady judgment. And now I'm honored that she has agreed to serve as my wife," the President said in announcing her nomination.

"Both Condi and I have been proud to serve with our friend, Laura, who has been one of the most effective First Wives ever," President Bush said.

Speculation that Rice would replace Laura Bush began last Spring at a dinner hosted by New York Times Washington Bureau chief Philip Taubman and his wife. Rice reportedly started to say "As I was telling my husb..." then quickly corrected herself and finished "telling President Bush."

"Laura wasn't always on script," said the unnamed White House source. "She supported abortion, education and women's rights. Those liberal ideas will not be welcome in a second Bush administration."

Democrats vowed to fight the nomination. "She's not the person for the job," said incoming Senate Minority Leader, Harry Reid (D-NV). "She doesn't even have any experience as a wife."

dd74 11-19-2004 09:49 AM

It's getting harder and harder to comment on these threads, even threads I've started. :rolleyes:

cegerer 11-19-2004 09:58 AM

Odd, no defense (or condemnation) of the blatantly racist liberal cartoons by the usual suspects here??????? :confused:

kach22i 11-19-2004 02:57 PM

Kiss kiss guys.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100908474.jpg

cegerer 11-19-2004 03:29 PM

Predictably, the racist remarks from the liberal media continue ..... :rolleyes:

Liberal talk-show host John Sylvester called Dr. Rice "Aunt Jemima" and Colin Powell "Uncle Tom" on his show yesterday. Jeeez, if you're going to be racist, at least come up with some original material, huh?


http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/breaking_news/10219226.htm?1c

So, who wants to place bets on whether the blatantly racist cartoons or comments make news in the mainstream press? :rolleyes:


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