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Victor 12-08-2004 04:35 PM

Did Adam and Eve Have Belly Buttons?
 
Hi guys,

Someone in the office just asked me this question and I am stumped.

I would have thought the answer is "yes". But then, given they did not arrive in the traditional manner - maybe not.

Confused.

84porsche 12-08-2004 04:38 PM

I am going with no but when you find the answer, please also ask what came first, the chicken or the egg?

Victor 12-08-2004 04:41 PM

Ahh yes - that old chestnut.

I thought it was common knowledge that the chicken arrived with an egg at the same time.

techweenie 12-08-2004 04:55 PM

Of course they didn't have belly buttons.

And their children didn't mate with each other, either.

Z-man 12-08-2004 05:05 PM

Well, Adam and Eve were created in God's image, so if we extrapolate the question, then we have:

DOES GOD HAVE A BELLY-BUTTON?

:D
-Z.

Victor 12-08-2004 05:06 PM

Taaa-Daaa!

Z-Man wins the prize!

D67 12-08-2004 05:08 PM

I would say Yes.

My reasoning. If God Created man and woman in the manner in which we are today then Yes - they would have belly buttons.

my $9.28

Victor 12-08-2004 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by D67
I would say Yes.

My reasoning. If God Created man and woman in the manner in which we are today then Yes - they would have belly buttons.

my $9.28

But God can't have created them the way we do now - A&E where the first. Besides - that would be some form of bizarre trans species incest.

They arrived here buck naked but for some strategically placed vine leaves - remember?

VaSteve 12-08-2004 05:24 PM

My head hurtz.....http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/...s/a_frusty.gif

KFC911 12-08-2004 05:27 PM

Why "soutinly"!!! (how is it spelled it the way 'Curly' would pronounce it?)
Adam had an 'outie'...
Eve han an 'innie'...
Then, like babies discovering their bods...
They ate the metaphorical apple and Adam ended up with a "woodie" :)

pwd72s 12-08-2004 05:30 PM

God's balls! Of course they had belly buttons!

johnco 12-08-2004 07:08 PM

how could they? And the real question is...Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel. that leaves Mother, Father and Son.. but somehow, they populated the Earth? hmmmm... these kinds of questions got me in serious trouble in cathechism... starting in 1st grade, ending in 4th grade when I was threatened with excommunication for skipping classes. There ended my religious education. BTW, the egg came first. Dinosaurs laid eggs long before chickens evolved from their prehistoric ancestors. hehehe.

Moneyguy1 12-08-2004 07:31 PM

According to some "biblical historians", Adam and Eve story is the first recorded story, not necessarily the first "people". Hey, History had to start somewhere!!

A special way back on either History or Discovery examined this hypothesis

D67 12-08-2004 07:41 PM

Maybe we are all an alien experiement gone terribly wrong?.

klaucke 12-08-2004 07:46 PM

Someone find out if apes have belly buttons! If they do, we must, after all, they are at the base of our family tree.......

johnco 12-08-2004 07:54 PM

with my limited knowledge, I'd think the only mammals without a belly button would be the Platypus and the Echidna, since they do lay eggs instead of live birth

A Quiet Boom 12-08-2004 08:49 PM

God is love, love is blind, Ray Charles is God! LOL :D

Don 944 LA 12-08-2004 10:59 PM

Quote:

Did Adam and Eve Have Belly Buttons?
Who ?????

project935 12-09-2004 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Victor
They arrived here buck naked but for some strategically placed vine leaves - remember?
I believe they just arrived here naked. The leaves came later.

I vote to get Eve posted on the Grid Girls thread :D

Z-man 12-09-2004 07:53 AM

While we are pondering such things, my I put forth the following:

Can God create a rock so big that He cannot lift it?

-Z.

304065 12-09-2004 08:07 AM

"It's heavy mystery time!"

}{arlequin 12-09-2004 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Z-man

DOES GOD HAVE A BELLY-BUTTON?

:D

Oh man, I sure hope SHE does. Otherwise where you gonna hang that sexy piercing?;)

bryanthompson 12-09-2004 08:24 AM

Can God microwave a burrito so hot that not even he could eat it?

concentric 12-09-2004 08:28 AM

Can God make a joint so big that he can't bogart it?

gaijinda 12-09-2004 08:36 AM

This is all very witty - but has not genetic research pointed to a small number of common ancestors? The whole Adam and Eve story might not be so far fetched...

Superman 12-09-2004 08:56 AM

Some of you know I have taught religious education at a Catholic church. One of the books I have used is entitled "Did Adam and Eve Have Belly Buttons." It is a collection of theological questions, and discussions. This question is nicely illustrative of an important principle in bible reading. The point is that if you get hung up on questions of biology (or physics or meteorology or.....) you're going to miss the real point.

We procreate. We "beget" each other. God Begot Jesus, so they are related. It's a family thing. By contrast, we are created creatures. Created by Him. That's an important distinction. Jesus is blood relation to God. We are not. We are His project. Like a track car. This has important theological implications.

I'd take a wild guess that Adam and Eve did not have belly buttons. But it wouldn't matter if they did. Similarly, I suspect that a "day" of creation was more than 24 standard hours. But again, it does not matter how long it took God to create the Universe. Getting hung up on those question is a trap.

kach22i 12-09-2004 08:59 AM

http://www.darkage.co.uk/rpg/bioware/bioware6_cloning.htm
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The drive for artificial wombs was to increase the survival of premature babies. This was very successful and as with many things, the technology was put to other applications. An artificial womb is like a small fish filled with a special liquid and various lifesupport umbilicals for food and waste products. Although a-wombs are more commonly used for premature births and organ growing, there has been a few cases of them being used to grow babies totally in vitro. Some parents have had children from "tanks", but the costs involved make "natural" birth still very common.
Does anyone remember "nipple necks" or "tanks" from the TV show "Space Above & Beyond"?

http://www.cyberpursuits.com/heckifiknow/saab/default.asp

kach22i 12-09-2004 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gaijinda
This is all very witty - but has not genetic research pointed to a small number of common ancestors? The whole Adam and Eve story might not be so far fetched...
Yep, less than 100,000 because of rapid climate change about 600,000 years ago, fuzzy memory, might have to correct these numbers upon some research.

Superman 12-09-2004 11:41 AM

Small = 1. I think it was the evaluation of mitochondrial DNA the led to the conclusion that all of Earth's current inhabitants are decendents of a single female who lived something like 30,000 years ago. That's about exactly how long ago Eve lived in a fully literal interpretation of geneology given in the bible. It's also about the place in history where the evolutionary disconnect is located.

pbs911 12-09-2004 12:55 PM

Looks like it to me. Here is an early photo of the couple.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1102625709.jpg

}{arlequin 12-09-2004 12:57 PM

how exactly *does* her leaf stay up....?

kach22i 12-09-2004 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by }{arlequin
how exactly *does* her leaf stay up....?
FAITH my dear brother, FAITH.:D

gaijinda 12-09-2004 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superman
Small = 1. I think it was the evaluation of mitochondrial DNA the led to the conclusion that all of Earth's current inhabitants are decendents of a single female who lived something like 30,000 years ago. That's about exactly how long ago Eve lived in a fully literal interpretation of geneology given in the bible. It's also about the place in history where the evolutionary disconnect is located.
Supe - You are the man. I have always said that..... B

kach22i 12-09-2004 01:44 PM

http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/faq/Encarta/diversity.htm
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This means that all human mtDNA originated from a single ancestral lineage -- specifically, a single mother -- fairly recently and has been mutating ever since, producing the small diversity that exists throughout the human species. Most estimates of the mutation rate indicate an origin of about 200,000 years ago.
Quote:

Despite these criticisms, many geneticists continue to favor the Out of Africa model. Studies of nuclear DNA also suggest an African origin for other genes besides mtDNA. Furthermore, in a remarkable study, ancient mtDNA has been recovered from the original Neanderthal fossil find in Germany, and it does not closely match modern human mtDNA. This finding suggests that at least the population of this one Neanderthal had diverged from the lineage to modern humans by about 600,000 years ago.
Will we ever know for sure?

Superman 12-09-2004 02:18 PM

That's frightening, B. I'm gonna still be an out-of-control liberal maniac when you've posted some war mongering anti-social conservative dribble. But in the meantime, it's delightful that you imagine me to be sensible. Have you seen the "Conservative Christian?" thread?

gaijinda 12-09-2004 02:30 PM

Not yet. But I will. I love the holidays. So much good cheer and all that good will and etc.

Tonight is a pelican get together in NYC. Wish all yous guys could make it...

Walko 12-09-2004 02:39 PM

you must remember that the leaves were not in use on adam and eve until they ate of the apple.

Did they have belly buttons what does it matter.

The big question is are you right with God

Michael

Victor 12-09-2004 02:41 PM

Walko,

God is not right with me at the moment.

Superman 12-09-2004 02:47 PM

Wish I could be there. I'm actually fairly personable, and occasionally reasonable. Have a very blessed Christmas season, B. I think you may have some understanding of the unbearably beautiful love that He gives us, so I hope that touches you again. It's really unbearable when you catch a glimpse of it. Changes everything. As you may know.

Walko 12-09-2004 03:35 PM

Does that mean he will help me do faster lap times

Michael


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