To refresh your memory. You were banned for making a stupid comment about the mods deceased daughter to provoke him.

Your proud of that?

They're probably not going to run me off. I very much enjoy the discussions. Will some Neocons please post on my "Gun Control" thread. I just never get tired of hearing folks try to justify clobbering a country that probably already hates us, to improve our national security. Then there's the issue of creating peace by evacuating a large city, demolishing half, and pulling the doors off the other half while the residents are banished, homeless. Should be some interesting elections in a few weeks.

So, somebody go there and outline why this is a good idea. As I say, I don't get tired of that. It's like watching the old Bugs Bunny cartoons over and over.

Good. Stay out. You are not missed. If it makes you happy, you're one of the legendary biggest *********s to ever post there. I'm sure your complete lack of ethics, dignity, tact, and civility will be hard to top (much for the good of us all).

Too bad that earthquake didn't hit, say. . . Chattanooga Tennessee. . . Oh well. There's always the next one. . .

Pinkie said:
"To refresh your memory. You were banned for making a stupid comment about the mods deceased daughter to provoke him.

Your proud of that?"

Hey Pinkie, do you remember the "super moderator" posting links to private information on the board prior to my comments? That's a violation of the charter here. But the "other board" has no such regulation. So I hurt his feelings & his daddy stepped in. Oh well. By the way, the person to which you refer went on to make such an a$$ of himself with another poster that he resigned as "super moderator." My only regret is that you began posting over here.

Porsche o file. Coming from you, I consider those compliments. And I couldn't make the top twenty on the list to which you refer . Watch your mouth there in Kolifornya. The BIG one could be just around the corner.

Somebody once told me:

"If God took everything that was done in His name seriously, God Himself would be an Athiest".

Ok, then you are saying its OK if we want to talk **** about your dead momma? Is that what your saying? Too bad that earthquake wasn't in TN, but like POP says there is always next time:)

Hey if the big one hits in CA, oh well. . . I accept it and not because I'm religious - it's simply a fact of life and my choices are "live with it" or "live in fear of it". It's merely a risk I accept. I'd rather live with the possibility of an earthquake (hey, we're all going to die sometime!) than the reality of backwards-ass thinking middle American pseudo-redneck "culture". BTDT - no mas!

To all: everyone is entitled to their opinion here - be it left or right, sideways or upways.

HOWEVER - the way some of you post things here PROVOKES others and angers them. That is against forum rules, and should not be tolerated. And those who reply with personal attacks towards others, you are also in violation of forum rules. ENOUGH ALREADY!

I have tried very hard to keep things peaceful here. (Oh oh - I may be accused of being left, or right, or WHATEVER by that comment). ANYWAY - truthfully, I am getting tired of all this bantering - from ALL sides.

This is a warning to EVERYONE who is continuing this banter - I am getting sick and tired of dealing with you folks with the 'he hit me first' cry baby attitudes. Thread after thread, post after post, all I seem to do is read through personal attack after personal attack, provocation after provocation. If this continues, political threads will no longer be allowed here. If people continue to fly off the handle, provoke others, use inappropriate language...etc, I will begin to ban people. Right, left - I could care less what your 'side' is - I am getting sick and tired of all this. (I think that's the third time I've said that - GET THE POINT?) Geez - this is worse than a session in congress!! If you all are that concerned about what's going on in the political world - go out and do something about it instead of bickering about it here. Start a petition, run for congress, heck - run for the next president of USA - that would be more effective than pissing people off here.

Now, if you can all just stick with the topic, and agree or disagree as mature adults, then things would go so much smoother around here.

Remember - this site is first and foremost a site for car enthusiasts - I am sure there are plenty of forums that are CENTERED on political topics - if you must continue the method of posting.

-Z-man, OT Forum moderator

Either Earth is falling apart, or if some "message" is being sent, we're not getting it.

Case in point: a massive earthquake hit Bam, Iran a year ago to the day of the Southeast Asia earthquake. 50,000 died in Iran.

I fault "the faults."

If a natural disaster is listed by insurance companies as an "Act of God" like a massive flood or fire, and the largest earthquake happened on the celebrated birthday of 'God'. Then my title was merely listing the too. The response was over the top by the usual suspects.

I guess it didn't happen. To taboo to talk about over here.

Word up. I'm not buddhist, but adrian's words were offensive. I was actually a bit shocked the first time I read it.

What exactly did you find "offensive" about Adrian's post? Just curious.

[Ok..one more comment :) ]


I'm not really Buddhist either. I grew up in a Buddhist family, and I share my life with a gal who grew up in a very Catholic Irish family...she and I are not really religious...we are open minded.

Hey guys, please leave politics out of this.

It was a serious disaster and lot's of people died. A friend of mine who's studying architecture in Tokyo went to Thailand for X-mas and new-years eve vacation and narrowly escaped disaster, i just got of the phone with his mom.

It's a earthquake for god's sake...continental plates that rub each other. There is really no need to use such a tragic event to fight silly religious fights.

Let's hope that no more people died and that those who were injured will get well soon.

Hi All,

I just got in from a prayer meeting, were out of the 60 people 1 in 5, had lost somone, known somone who'd died or cant contact somone.

I found out also today (a shoirt while ago) my cousin's 2 sons and husband are missing.

Whilst I'm not going to argue on everything here, I try and put some points down and not in any order.

1) Z-man is right, with his posting asking people not to get personal

2) Whilst I called Red an Idiot an then an ignorant idiot, is'nt necessairly a major personal slagging off. I get called worse by my mates. If you will post something which in the wake of 23,000 people being killed is going to upset somone you'd better expect a retort. It's kinda like somone saying after 9-11, calling a post somthing like "The US had it coming to them" any ideas on what kinda slagging off that person would get.

3) I don't want to see anyone banned (not even Red), personally I've not had any problems with Red and the more conpiracy theroist UFO tin foil posts I have enjoyed and entered into. If there were any other really bad ones I did'nt see them. I corrected the title of the post and questions the comment, as far as I'm concerned thats that.

Oh and BTW as the diaster happened on the 26th, which is the day after Christmas (in Red's eyes and in theory Jesus's birthday) the 26th is actually called Pongal Day WHICH is a Buddist festival, so correctly it should have been "Budda ......" whatever his post was called.

4) The post title was out of order, regardless of who wrote it, and whatever religion was used in the place of Jesus. I would still have written my reply. BUt as I stated I wrote the reply as I read it, which was as a Chrsitian and then a Sri Lankan.

5) I'm sure Red realises that it was not the best way to post a thread, i'm sure he's sorry and he'll still get a card at Christmas time (if I knew his address)

6) The comments I made about buddists, ok, like a lot of religions you get good and bad. Maybe you need to understand I didnt sit down and structure exactly what and how I was going to write it (Adrian reads his thread)
My mind was on line that the orginal thread name was that "Jesus" brought down the 9.0, I was stating that God does not do these things, God has an overall plan and he may "allow" these things to happen (explained later) but he doesnt I assum just wake up and think, oooh lets see I'll wipe out 23,000 of my children today !

I then went on to explain the evil that does exist in Sri Lanka, ie the Christians that are persecuted, killed and fire bombed. This is a fact, it happens and anyone who does this to ANY religion are EVIL, it just happnes that as SL is a Buddist nation, that new laws are coming in to enhance the friction and subjugate its own people. This again is a fact, I'm not going to in in depth, but there is a hell of a lot of things going on that most people know about... hence me saying "by thoes peace loving buddists", most people associate Buddists with thoes cute, nice monks and I'm sure most of them are but there are a whole load of them going around doing evil things WHICH accordning to there religion there not supposed to ! If anyone was offended then I did not mean to imply that "all buddists" are evil just as not all "muslims are terrorists" or all american presidents are war mongers ! But what is happnening is happening. Its a fact.

To make matters worse I also heard this evening again propganda by some evil toe rags are saying that it is a curse on the island (as a buddist nation) that this was caused by "christians trying to convert all the buddist's" and if this gets going all hell will break loose, again this is madness who thinks up these things ? Again people with agendas or powers/people in high places. Trust me Evil has its people placed in places of power.

7) Was SL asking for it, I heard somone say. Again of course not, BUT God has his way of making things work to his ways. For thoes that dont know, SL has been taering itself apart for decades both in religion and in race. Tamil and Sinahelse have been killing each other in atrocity after atrocity. In the east which was hit, was a number of camps were kids as young as 10 are kindapped and trained to be terroroists, munitioons and bombs in these camps have all been wiped out. Did you also know that If we as a "christian "group wanted to send money to SL, we would not be able to, as it is "deemed" to be trying to bribe buddists over to being Christians, again a lot of Christian aiders are expelled and live in fear of death. This is MADNESS but it is true. NOW why is it ok to send money... There is a line of thought for SL to become united all people, races.creededs must work together. The poor who are poor are the same as the rich who have lost everything. God is working in his way.

8) The way I see it There is like this eternal Chess game, Evil tries to do a flanker, but God just keeps moving the game his way.

9) Again as I said the point is to a Christian, you die, you get Gods grace, so God knows that his people know this, so if x ammount of people die, we as there relatives grieve, but if were truly Christian we know there in Gods hands and thats gotta be better.

10) I can't write this any other way than as a Christian (Pentecostal), so you'll have to excuse my writings and beliefes, I'm not a Catholic, or a Hindu or atheiest,whatever so I can't write it another perspective. If somethings wrong regardless I'll say so.

11) Thankxs RandY P comments apprecaaited ! The other thing that happened was my friends sister was taken into hospital yesterday here with major heart problems and she was having all kinds of things and everyone thought she was going to die, luckily she was discharged today (thanks to some great doctors and the power of prayer) so that was also on my mind. I can only take so much preassure fellas so I hope you will understand I am only human (well just about human ;) )

So, I hope I've explained myself OR not as the case maybe. I don't have a problem with anyone challenging my POV, or beliefes. You dont have to believe or accept anything I say.

But pls dont make z-mans life any harder he's a well nice guy and I love him to bits (I mean in a MALE HETROSEXUAL TYPE LETS BE FRIENDS KINDA way)

And dont do anything to cause the board to shut this OT down, Rennlist is a members only now, and where else can I shoot the brezze or post the odd insulinly challnged (or as in this case) passionate thread

Love to all, and keep thoes prayers flying and thankxs for the cares

Adrian

"Pastors and Christians are being killed, tortured and raped. A Roman Catholic Church was fire bombed a few days ago by... thoes peace loving buddists."

Particularly "peace loving buddhists"

It is only spilled milk. I'm over it.

"The fear of God is the begining of wisdom "....you have shown your ignorance, and you display it when you speak of of other religions, as you admit in #10. The fact that you can only understand your religion should perhaps be a wake up call.

If you must speak of others in anyway that is condescending you should first learn of their religion and culture. If you still think to speak of them in a condescending tone after having put forth a true effort to learn, then you have the right.

The way you speak, makes Christians and I suppose Pentecostals all pure and good. I don't make claims of good or bad regarding any religion, but my studies of ancient civilization, recent history, anthropology, science, the arts (yes art!) and the struggles of my short life leads me to understand and accept things more freely. It is often not the religion, but world politics that taint the single goal of all religion.... if I have to tell you what that is...then perhaps you have failed your religion.

Perhaps it is the strong nature with which you express your belief is what has turned most people off. Putting yourself on a higher plane than others of a different belief is in no way a Christian act. Your comments and the thread topic (although I did not see it) has received a lot of "views", and the potential of having your opinion be dominant when it insults a culture and religion that I can associate with inspires me to speak up.

I too have attachments to people that have been affected by this NATURAL event, but my understanding of the world has not changed nor will this event lead me to dirty the air between me and those that don't believe the same things that I believe in.

If you are truely a Christian, you would understand that suffering and the need to end suffering are not solely owned by Christians. Pray in your own way for those that have lost homes and family members, for their lives will never be the same, yet they will continue to struggle for happiness in this life for themselves and their love ones....no matter what political or religous ground they stand on.

"I dont believe in God, but I'm afraid of him."

Wisest words I've ever heard.

The phrase he fear of God is the begining of wisdom implies that anyone who doesn't fear your god is a dumf*ck.

I would counter that the fear of god is the end of wisdom; you've given up true independent thought and are letting someone else spoon feed 'knowledge' to in a manner they see fit. You're willingly letting yourself be manipulated for someone else's socio-political gain - the church wouldn't be the social, political and financial powerhouse it has if it weren't for millions of willing drones like you. You've capitulated to the mentality of the masses, finding it easier to go along with the crowd rather than find your own way, and an important part of the process is to denigrate those who aren't in your clique.

You can be whatever religion you want - muslim, jew, catholic, toad-lickin' hallucinogenician - I don't give a rat's ass. Just don't talk down to me because I've chosen not to join your club.