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mcmath: i think basically we are pretty much parallel in your statements. the problem seems to be that when you mention any of this blasphemy, you can hear peoples minds slam shut.
after all, it is convieniently added in many of the faiths, that the only sin you cant be forgiven for is to deny {question} the word of god and to think it is just as bad as doing it so ive been told.
ok, here goes! i have always assumed that the old testament was for the most part a history book. i was even told this in college. you speak of moses and the parting of the sea. i was watching the history channel one night. the topic was, who built the pyramids. so thats a no brainer right? well they interviewed the top egyptologist (several). the biblical story of egypt and the hebrews and all that. the egyptologist stated that in the 150 years that scholars had studied the subject, not one mention of the hebrews in egypt was ever mentioned by the egyptians. they know what they ate, their sex lives and other intimate details of their lives, but not one word has ever been found to mention the hebrews. ok, so once again this is the politically correct "history channel". the egyptologist stated that the pyramids were built by egyptians in a "WPA" project. it was every mans duty to do something for the pharoah, aka god, to assure his entry into the after world! the egyptologist claim that the stories in the old testament were written by traveling story tellers who visited the area.
ok, im still investigating this! if this is the true word of the scientist, i need to know more! as this point, im not here to argue the point, merely to relate what i have seen. this is one of the many discoveries that could change the way some people will look at history. those of faith will never look at it differently.

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Or not.

But back to big question- why did your God send the ocean to smote 150,000 of his children? Was it because they were sinners? Was it because they bow down to graven idols? Was it because he is angry with them, or us all? Was it to remind us of his love for us?

Or was it just because....there is no-one home?

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Werewulf, I must confess I'd never heard that before. All of my history background places the Hebrews in Egypt. Many scholars can even pick dates and pharaohs that are probable for the Exodus! I'd be curious to find out more. Do you remember any of the names of those Egyptologists? My cursory search of the history channel's website was inconclusive. Thanks,

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Or not.

But back to big question- why did your God send the ocean to smote 150,000 of his children? Was it because they were sinners? Was it because they bow down to graven idols? Was it because he is angry with them, or us all? Was it to remind us of his love for us?

Or was it just because....there is no-one home?

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True.

Good question, tho, innit.

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True.

Good question, tho, innit.

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No it's not, if you knew the first thing about the religion you wouldn't have to ask such an asinine question. And no I'm not a religious person myself, but stupid is easy to spot.
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No it's not, if you knew the first thing about the religion you wouldn't have to ask such an asinine question. And no I'm not a religious person myself, but stupid is easy to spot.
Stupid? Why I oughta....


For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believed in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.*


As it happens, I do know the first thing about the religion. Why dont you have a crack at the question. Too hard? Beneath you? Cant answer it?

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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believed in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.*


As it happens, I do know the first thing about the religion. Why dont you have a crack at the question. Too hard? Beneath you? Cant answer it?

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It's not a real question that's why. It's an attempt to belittle the Christians on this board. To my knowledge God doesn't "smote" anyone any longer. This is an exorcise in ego stroking for you. It makes you feel superior to mock those with what you believe to be ignorant faith. I guess if it gives you jollies, run with it.
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Can you believe armed soldiers came down to tell me to move from that spot? They had rooster tails in thier hats like that Italian poofalini in "'Allo 'Allo".
Well you did park the Stuka in front of the Shrine.

Didnt you ever see Breaker Morant?
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Thats really weak. However, for your sake:

Why did God send a tsunami to destroy the lives of 150,000 of his people?

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Thats really weak. However, for your sake:

Why did God send a tsunami to destroy the lives of 150,000 of his people?

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What makes you think God sent it? I could just as easily ask why Thor sent it no? Or how about Oprah?
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What makes you think God sent it? I could just as easily ask why Thor sent it no? Or how about Oprah?
Precisely.
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............ To my knowledge God doesn't "smote" anyone any longer. ..........
Hang on - that means the Bible (God's word) is no longer valid. He better send down another son to set the record straight at the printers.
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Hang on - that means the Bible (God's word) is no longer valid. He better send down another son to set the record straight at the printers.
Man I use to think I had a lot to learn when it came to religion. I now realize I'm no where near the bottom in the knowledge pool. Thanks for that anyway.
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Man I use to think I had a lot to learn when it came to religion. I now realize I'm no where near the bottom in the knowledge pool. Thanks for that anyway.
Verily, Lendaddy. However, thoust continues to avoid the question. God is omnipotent and omniscient. He knows the very number of the hairs on your head. He commands the stars in heavens the winds, the rains, the sun.

Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth. 2 Samuel 22:8

Did God send his wroth in the form of a wave?

God could do this, you know, OR- God could prevent it. He is God, after all....

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Man I use to think I had a lot to learn when it came to religion. I now realize I'm no where near the bottom in the knowledge pool. Thanks for that anyway.
No worries. Glad to be of assistance. Maybe you know a little too much about religion and not enough about God?
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Verily, Lendaddy. However, thoust continues to avoid the question. God is omnipotent and omniscient. He knows the very number of the hairs on your head. ............
Yah - like that's SOOO hard.


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