The thing about the R Gruppe etall is that they have no sense of humor about themselves....which on one hand is understandable...When they say "You don't get it" they really mean that there is a deep sense of friendship in the gruppe, without the pretension of social status or wealth....they are all just equally friends...and that for them is a very solemn thing that they don't take lightly... thier attitude is this is a sacred thing that you don't joke about...in that stance they have become almost like a religion....

I understand it very clearilyand even honor the friendship aspect..but in their solemnity they have lost humility and thats where I get off the boat... They have forgoten that as humans we are less than perfect and either you cry/pray about it or you give up carrying the load (to The Christ).and accept that your never going to be perfect, in which you can then laugh at your own foilbles...either way your none the less a serious person..and thats something that the Registry forgot when they axed me...

didn't jesus eat with prostitutes?

there also is a difference between humility and humiliation. Unfortuantely many westerners don't realize that.

I think I said somewhere...."Stupid people don't like being called stupid" refering to the Gruppe but if you read the text it is meant as a rebuke of myself... In that it was a mistake doing it with the Gruppe...

Between the Gruppe and myself it's been quid pro quo, except I don't feel humiliated because I am not PRIDEFULL and remain humbly a servant...inspite of my stance/image otherwise which is the joke I play because the load of my imperfection is so great.

BTW: we all look foolish....and to think otherwise is arrogance...