Abstinence Programs Linked To Higher Sodomy and STD Rates

[350HP930]

Even though our domestic taliban members are always trying to blame clinton for kids having sex, it appears that their own ignorance campaign is doing more harm than good.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/03/18/virginitystudy.stds.ap/index.html

NEW HAVEN, Connecticut (AP) -- Teens who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are more likely to take chances with other kinds of sex that increase the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, a study of 12,000 adolescents suggests.

The report by Yale and Columbia University researchers could help explain their earlier findings that teens who pledged abstinence are just as likely to have STDs as their peers.

The latest study, published in the April issue of the Journal of Adolescent Health, found that teens pledging virginity until marriage are more likely to have oral and anal sex than other teens who have not had intercourse. That behavior, however, "puts you at risk," said Hannah Brueckner, assistant professor of sociology at Yale and one of the study's authors.

Among virgins, boys who have pledged abstinence were four times more likely to have had anal sex than teens who have remained abstinent but not as part of a pledge, according to the study. Overall, pledgers were six times more likely to have oral sex.

The pledging group was also less likely to use condoms during their first sexual experience or get tested for STDs, the researchers found.

Data for the study was taken from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. An in-school questionnaire was given to a nationally representative sample of students in grades 7-12 and followed up with a series of in-home interviews roughly one, two, and six years later. It was funded in part by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Leslee Unruh, president of the National Abstinence Clearinghouse in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, called the study "bogus," disputing that those involved had pledged true "abstinence."

"Kids who pledge abstinence are taught that any word that has 'sex' in it is considered a sexual activity," Unruh said. "Therefore oral sex is sex, and they are staying away."

Millions of teens have signed written pledges or verbally promised to abstain from sex, part of a church-led effort to discourage premarital sex and the spread of disease. President Bush has boosted funding for abstinence-only education in schools.

Critics say that education needs to be coupled with safe-sex education to be effective.

"If adolescents only had sex in monogamous, married relationships, by definition there would be no STDs," Brueckner said, echoing President Bush's remarks in last year's State of the Union address. "But the majority of adolescents don't live like that. They do have sex."

Last year, the same research team found that 88 percent of teens who pledge abstinence end up having sex before marriage, compared with 99 percent of teens who do not make a pledge.

[bryanthompson]

When you define "abstinence programs" as 99% of the schools have, what you end up with is a bunch of teachers teaching kids to roll condoms onto a cucumber. Do we even need to talk about the number of women teachers that have raped young boys? "abstinence programs" and the teachers who 'teach' it say upfront that they don't believe abstinence is a reasonable expectation. With an attitude like that, It's no wonder their programs don't work.

Abstinence education should include explanation of what happens during an abortion. Yeah it's graphic, but it's life. Or i guess, it's killing a life. If they can't handle that, they can't handle sex.

[bryanthompson]

visit your local indoctrination camp and see for yourself, there should be dozens around within 15 miles.

[350HP930]

I always notice the most insane opinions about public schools frequently come from the people who don't have kids in them.

[nostatic]

Originally posted by bryanthompson
Do we even need to talk about the number of women teachers that have raped young boys?

maybe we do...I didn't realize this was a rampant problem. Do you have any pointers to studies/sources?

[lendaddy]

As hard as I tried, none of my female teachers ever raped me

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by procon
But...
She wanted it.

That's the way I saw it, our love was simply forbidden.

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by lendaddy
As hard as I tried, none of my female teachers ever raped me

Damn! Where is Mary Kay Leturno (sp?) now that we REALLY need her?

[CamB]

Originally posted by bryanthompson
Abstinence education should include explanation of what happens during an abortion. Yeah it's graphic, but it's life. Or i guess, it's killing a life. If they can't handle that, they can't handle sex.

I'm as pro-abstinence as the next Christian, but this is counter-intuitive. If you showed said video as part of a concerted birth control campaign then you would get results. Maybe.

[pwd72s]

Let's face it...if I were a cop specializing in busting kid molestors of ANY sexual bent, the first place I'd start looking is in the schools. If you're hunting predators, it pays to hunt where the predators do the same...

[fintstone]

Originally posted by 350HP930
I always notice the most insane opinions about public schools frequently come from the people who don't have kids in them.

They used bananas in my kid's school.

[widebody911]

Do we even need to talk about the number of women teachers that have raped young boys?

maybe we do...I didn't realize this was a rampant problem. Do you have any pointers to studies/sources?

...or phone numbers?

[widebody911]

Originally posted by pwd72s
Let's face it...if I were a cop specializing in busting kid molestors of ANY sexual bent, the first place I'd start looking is in the schools. If you're hunting predators, it pays to hunt where the predators do the same...

That would be the rectory.

Ya know, I wonder if the etymolgy of 'rectory' is derived from 'rectum'

[dhoward]

"...rectum hell, it damned near killed him!"

My guess is the number of teachers 'raping' students hasn't changed much over the years. We just report on every little piece of 'news'.
We had a couple of coaches in high school that like to hang around during shower time.
We thought it was odd, and kind of funny in a high school sort of way, but didn't go running around screaming and crying about it.

People whine and b!itch too much anymore.

Nothing worse than my then 15 and 17 year old daughters sitting around discussing blow jobs.

Nothing except me suggesting that if they insist on sexual contact with a boy, a hand job should do nicely.

[MikeCT]

Originally posted by dhoward
Nothing worse than my then 15 and 17 year old daughters sitting around discussing blow jobs.

Yikes

Originally posted by dhoward
Nothing except me suggesting that if they insist on sexual contact with a boy, a hand job should do nicely.

hahaha

[350HP930]

Originally posted by fintstone
They used bananas in my kid's school.

Back when I was in school I think we used cucumbers in health class. We also got to feel up a fake boob to learn how to look for lumps.