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Old 05-12-2005, 06:21 AM
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Quit and apply for the new position. Screw your current boss and whatever issue they have with under-staffing. It is not your issue and specifically why they get paid supervisor dollars to deal with these situations. In no way should you allow someone to invoke a generally ignored requirement because they are not suited to their job.
Other folks are correct: Go to HR, go to the new boss, go to the head of the company, whatever it takes. But do not allow someone else to dictate your lively hood and what you want in your career.
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Old 05-12-2005, 08:13 AM
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Quit and apply for the new position. Screw your current boss and whatever issue they have with under-staffing. It is not your issue and specifically why they get paid supervisor dollars to deal with these situations. In no way should you allow someone to invoke a generally ignored requirement because they are not suited to their job.
Other folks are correct: Go to HR, go to the new boss, go to the head of the company, whatever it takes. But do not allow someone else to dictate your lively hood and what you want in your career.
Agree with your feelings on this but if he quits then he losing any and all senority, vestment in retirement plans and so on.

Would rather see him work through HR to get away from this department, and hopefully give them a hint as to why she is losing all her staff. Might get her an attitude adjustment and help the whole company.

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Old 05-12-2005, 08:16 AM
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I agree that you should fight for the new position or find a new one in another company, preferably a competitor.

As for women managers, all except one I have had made sure I was well rewarded and promoted at the earliest opportunity. I cannot say the same for the male supervisors. Oh, yes, I am a man.
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I agree with leveraging the two most powerful tools (no pun intended) at your disposal, HR and better yet, the promotion boss. If promotion boss understands the bottom line he/she may enlist heavy hitter to insist it go through before there's time for current boss to counter.

The company has to look at it this way, completely lose a good employee worthy of a promotion or utilize the good employee where he is happy and productive.
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Most female managers and those in higher corporate roles are good and respectable. However, there are a few who try to strap on a p3nis and are a complete nightmare. Sounds like the manager in this case is trying to piss on a fire hydrant to mark her territory. If no contracts were signed, how can she keep you from moving throughout the company? I'd go over her head and get the new hiring manager engaged, especially if they have more pull and senority. You also need to be leary of potential attempts of career sabatog by your current manager.
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take her out for drinks and get her plastered ....then do her...she will want to get rid of you then.
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ALWAYS get it in writing!!!!!!!!

If you have a piece of paper saying that you where promised raises or promotion written by them its give you alot more leverage.
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take her out for drinks and get her plastered ....then do her...she will want to get rid of you then.
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Quit and apply for the new position. Screw your current boss and whatever issue they have with under-staffing. It is not your issue and specifically why they get paid supervisor dollars to deal with these situations. In no way should you allow someone to invoke a generally ignored requirement because they are not suited to their job.
Other folks are correct: Go to HR, go to the new boss, go to the head of the company, whatever it takes. But do not allow someone else to dictate your lively hood and what you want in your career.
JUST DO THIS !!
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Hey folks, I've held off on updating until I played my last card.

***edited... TMI***
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Old 05-26-2005, 06:06 AM
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By the way, thanks to everyone for the fantastic advice & moral support.
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I wish it had worked out more smoothly, but I'd still say you're better off than you would be had you simply taken one for the team. Sounds like the plan is to allow you to put some distance between you and the Spider Woman. That's good. And there are managers and VP's who understand you better, which is also good. I wonder who Spider Woman is bedding. Managers and VP's have to know that the best interests of the company are served best when folks with unused talent are moved into positions where the higher talents can be put to use. Barriers to this are barriers to company performance. And frankly, managers with no leadership are less than worthless. If I were Emperor, Spider Woman would take the position you would now vacate. Her position would then be filled by someone who I believe has leadership. And she'd be watched carefully since this would piss her off. Eventually she'd leave, and the staff would rejoice. Productivity would soar. And I'd buy pizza.
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Old 05-26-2005, 06:48 AM
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Sorry about this!! If it were me, I'd find another position in another company and quit spot on. But, I'm a jerk when they don't provide lubrication....
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Just say .........NEXT!!
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Old 05-26-2005, 06:20 PM
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go over her head. Or find a backchannel way to deal with her. Not that I have ever done either of those...
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***edited...TMI**

Also, to address the idea that I should just quit and go to another company... not easy to do in my neck of the woods. It'd be nearly impossible to find another job in my field that pays as well as this one, and has the same benefits. It's also a great company to work for.

Either way, this opportunity has come and gone... position has been filled. I know the guy who got it actually... great fellah who really needed a lucky break.
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It may be a test. How you approach this may indicate potential to management as to how you react under stress.

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