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Moses 06-03-2005 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by Z-man
There is a fine line between being annoying, rude and stupid, and being irrational and dangerous.
There were two cops at the scene. Both had a clear view of her hands. One held a cigarette, the other a cellphone. Were they worried that she was a kick-boxing champion that might suddenly go postal? Give me a break. Dealing with stupid rude people is a daily, maybe hourly event for police officers. You can't just whip out the Taze-O-Matic every time some traffic code miscreant rubs you the wrong way. Bad cop. No Donut.

techweenie 06-03-2005 07:50 AM

I'm takin' a Taser to the supermarket Express Lane, and woe unto anyone with over 12 items...

Westy 06-03-2005 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by island911
. . . and supposedly the cops are trained to know the difference.
Yup, and by the very heart of this statement the cop should know you don't have a clue about what goes on during a traffic stop. I'm curious, how many of them have you made?

island911 06-03-2005 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by techweenie
I'm takin' a Taser to the supermarket Express Lane, and woe unto anyone with over 12 items...
LOL

great idea. :D

I think i'll use it on the next old woman in line who spends 5 minutes seaching for her damn "club card." (since they're so safe, and all :rolleyes: )

Z-man 06-03-2005 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by techweenie
I'm takin' a Taser to the supermarket Express Lane, and woe unto anyone with over 12 items...
That's funny!

I wonder if I can borrow your taser to use on folks who change lanes without using a turn signal?

Or the people who block my driveway when they pick up their little Johnny from the school beside my house...

Better yet - on the neighbor who lets his doggie poop on my lawn. Not for the pooch, but for the human owner!

Of course, it would help slow down my competition at the next autocross too!

Okay, I can see how a taser can give you a sense of power...

-Z.

Moses 06-03-2005 07:56 AM

Complete the sentence;

I Tazed her because...

1) I didn't want her to get any overage charges on her cellphone.

2) She wouldn't put out her cigarette, and smoking is bad for her.

3) She called me a bad name.

4) She just looked like she needed a 50,000 volt attitude adjustment.

rattlsnak 06-03-2005 07:56 AM

OMG what a drama queen she is.......

100% agree with the cops in this sitaution.

Do as you're told, and sort it out later.

Z-man 06-03-2005 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moses
Complete the sentence;

I Tazed her because...

1) I didn't want her to get any overage charges on her cellphone.

2) She wouldn't put out her cigarette, and smoking is bad for her.

3) She called me a bad name.

4) She just looked like she needed a 50,000 volt attitude adjustment.

"I was merely seeing if her inoperable brake light was truly burnt out, or just loose. 50,000 volts would do it."

island911 06-03-2005 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by Westy
Yup, and by the very heart of this statement the cop should know you don't have a clue about what goes on during a traffic stop. I'm curious, how many of them have you made?
OH-HO! :D. .. .and out comes the defense of "you don't know, so you can't have an opinion."

Ah yes, cops have a license to kill, since only cops can KNOW if it's justified. Every one else is to defer to the cops judgement ALWAYS, and/or just STFU. yyyyeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!

Westy 06-03-2005 08:00 AM

This about the first time I've agreed with anything Techweenie has said, but that woman in the supermarket line,,,,you know the one, she waits for everything to ring up. Then she asks what the amount is. Then she searches her purse for the checkbook. Then again asks what the amount is. Then she asks if that included her discount. Then she stops writing halfway to ponder paper or plastic. Then she starts writing again. Then she asks what the amount was. Then she finishes the check, but it rips when she tears it out of the checkbook. OMG!!!

Westy 06-03-2005 08:02 AM

WOW. Skins a little thin for so early in the day. Better get out your tazer.

Racerbvd 06-03-2005 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by tobster1911
Uhmmmm.... I just got home to be able to watch the video......did no one notice that there appears to be two, count them, 2 officers there? Now why would the not be able to handle this without the Taser?
Because then every liberal would be screaming that they used force to remove her from her car. She isn't the victim, she had already committed a crime, although minor, she then chose to make it worse on herself. If you don't like taser's, blame the liberals who defend the scum and make it harder for the police to do their jobs. If she had done as instructed, she wouldn't have been tasered, if the officers had tried to physically remove her, the same people who are whining about her being tasered we whining about her being dragged from her car, as she would have come out kicking & screaming. Cops don't want to get sued, and thanks to anti-American and racist groups like the aclu & naacp, their jobs are much harder as these groups don't care that the is a reason some people get arrested is that they committed a crime. Don't want to get tasered or shot, don't break the law and do what the cop says. Very simple, if you don't, you deserve what ever they do to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RallyJon 06-03-2005 08:29 AM

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Because then every liberal would be screaming that they used force to remove her from her car.
Really?

When I see a cop take an uncooperative idiot, get physical control of them, put their hands behind their back and handcuff them, I think, "Job well done--way to HANDLE the situation."

There's something about a cop standing there administering electric shock that makes me think of torture instead. Not a great image. Not a good spin on police work. :(

island911 06-03-2005 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by Racerbvd
. .. If you don't like teaser's,
.. . she wouldn't have been tasseled,
. ...whining about her being tasseled ..
. .... Don't want to get tasseled or shot, ...

Dude, you ought to get "teased" for using an auto-correct spell-checker. :cool:

Racerbvd 06-03-2005 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by island911
Dude, you ought to get "teased" for using an auto-correct spell-checker. :cool:
You got me there, contacts are acting up and without them or my glasses (which are on the way) I can't see past my elbows:rolleyes:

Jims5543 06-03-2005 10:39 AM

Just to be clear. Driving with a suspended license is a Felony. Not a minor offense at all.

I was sweating bullets when I was pulled over knowing I was in serious trouble. The last thing on my mind was to give the cop a load of ***** for pulling me over, although, I honestly didn't do anything wrong to get pulled over. I was not speeding I just did not slow down for the turn and took it at the posted speed limit.

The cop fished and ran my tag and bingo! He had a reason to pull me over.

The cop tried to pull her from the car and was pushed away and swung at.

Some of you say he should have called for backup. Why? Boyton Beach is not exactly a really nice area. Would it really be necessary for 2 or more cruisers to waste their time on this. Then it would look like the cops were ganging up on her.

Two patrol cars to arrest a speeder/ unlicensed driver would be overkill. I think one car can handle it just fine. The only viable option would be to call in a woman to handle it.

I think the cops handled this just fine, trust me I do not like cops and their ticket writing at all, but, if pulled over basic respect for authority is needed. Rhis woman is just as example of how crappy society is today, if she has kids, I am willing to bet they are the ones mouthing off to the teacher and dirupting class.

RickM 06-03-2005 10:46 AM

"Schools restrict use of Tasers"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050603/ts_usatoday/schoolsrestrictuseoftasers

..."In Miami-Dade County, Fla., schools Superintendent Rudy Crew was inundated with complaints from parents in October after a police officer used a stun gun on a 6-year-old student."........

Racerbvd 06-03-2005 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by RickM
"Schools restrict use of Tasers"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050603/ts_usatoday/schoolsrestrictuseofteaser's

..."In Miami-Dade County, Fla., schools Superintendent Rudy Crew was inundated with complaints from parents in October after a police officer used a stun gun on a 6-year-old student."........

If parents would teach their kids to show respect, and behave, there would be no issue here. This was a big issue here, the parents who had kids who behave in school aren't against teaser's being in schools, it is the ones whose kids are the trouble makers and don't/can't control them are the ones against it. At one local town hall meet a grandmother (always seems to be the ones raising these kids) talking about how her baby looked so helpless when he was tased while resisting arrest in a drug bust.

kach22i 06-03-2005 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by LubeMaster77
I put my hand on one of those battery operated fly swatters that send a curent to fry the fly - DANG! That thing freaking hurt!
Yep, me too........THIS IS NOT A TOY.......no kidding.

To discharge it all the way down, drop a damp sponge on it to short it out.

Partial use, or no contact and then storage will set the stage for an accident.

911pcars 06-03-2005 12:48 PM

I'm with RickM on this one:

"I have an issue with them zapping her (more than once) after she was on the ground. If they wanted her to put her hands behind her back then kneel down and do it manually. That was excessive and lazy, IMO."

And if she didn't assume the correct position when requested after being cuffed, would they have good reason to zap her again? And what if she spat or acted beligerant? Substitute the baton instead of Taser and see if that works for everyone.

Looking at this objectively and in hindsight, the first discharge could be rationalized. The second one could be excessive force (not needed). I think she and an attorney have a case.

Police work is difficult; gotta make the correct split-second decision. IMHO, their training under the circumstances was lacking.

Sherwood


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