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Shaun @ Tru6 07-12-2005 05:41 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Why is this not feasable:



Ummm, because it bears no resemblance to what really happened? Did you stay up all night to put that together?

What other history would you like to re-write?

lendaddy 07-12-2005 05:43 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Ummm, because it bears no resemblance to what really happened? Did you stay up all night to put that together?

What other history would you like to re-write?

I'll bite....what "really" happened Shaun? And how did lil ole you get the intel?

P.S. get a grip on the rage and angst, it'll bite ya in the end good buddy.

jyl 07-12-2005 05:46 AM

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Originally posted by CamB
She must have been a covert agent, or none of the inquiry would be happening and no reporters would be threatened with jail.
Not necessarily.

As fint says, the law has a rather specific definition of "covert agent" and we don't know if she can be proven to fit that description. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/50/chapters/15/subchapters/iv/sections/section_426.html

My point about the prosecutor having collected so much infomation under oath, though, was that a perjury charge is also a possibility.

lendaddy 07-12-2005 05:46 AM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
LOL "extreme left?"

Everyone's asking questions now lendaddy.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out...

Listen to your coveted AAR and see that the extreme left isn't asking questions, they're conviced. Ask Shaun where he got his intel, he's convinced and he's apparently in the loop.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-12-2005 05:54 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
I'll bite....what "really" happened Shaun? And how did lil ole you get the intel?

P.S. get a grip on the rage and angst, it'll bite ya in the end good buddy.

Fox is covering this better than CNN. Do a search. And like you said the other day, there's more to this than meets the eye. Stay tuned Len, but for god's sake keep away from history book publishers. We really don't need any more apologist hype for the Admin.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-12-2005 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by jyl
Not necessarily.

As fint says, the law has a rather specific definition of "covert agent" and we don't know if she can be proven to fit that description. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/50/chapters/15/subchapters/iv/sections/section_426.html

My point about the prosecutor having collected so much infomation under oath, though, was that a perjury charge is also a possibility.

To review:

"is"

"last throes"

"not free"

"covert"

lendaddy 07-12-2005 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Fox is covering this better than CNN. Do a search. And like you said the other day, there's more to this than meets the eye. Stay tuned Len, but for god's sake keep away from history book publishers. We really don't need any more apologist hype for the Admin.
How does that answer my question? What really happened and how did you get that info? Or were you just talking outta your rear?

You implied I was an idiot for not knowing, so lets have it.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-12-2005 06:04 AM

For once, do your own searches, info gathering.

lendaddy 07-12-2005 06:06 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
For once, do your own searches, info gathering.
LOL, how bout you just tell me how you know........ What's your connection that gives you grand jury intel?

928ram 07-12-2005 06:09 AM

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I'm really sorry...What personal gain?
Wilson published a book right before this all came out 2 yrs ago, next the whole Niger/Bush lied/wife outed comes out and Wilson sells lots of books, Wilson condradicts his own writings before the 9/11 commission and admits he exaturated(sp??) in his writings. Wilson keeps profits from book.

Sadly this sort of pattern seems to be the current MO of much of the publishing industry.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-12-2005 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
LOL, how bout you just tell me how you know........ What's your connection that gives you grand jury intel?
Len, you've got this really annoying habit (someone's got to tell you) of asking for info, which is then presented, then you don't believe it even though factually accurate. You are very close to Flint in this regard and it's gotten worse over the last year. Go do your own research on foxnews.com, then you'll believe it. Oh, and do a search on Trent Lott and ethics (you'll find some interesting info), or is that DeLay... there are so many to choose from.

lendaddy 07-12-2005 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Len, you've got this really annoying habit (someone's got to tell you) of asking for info, which is then presented, then you don't believe it even though factually accurate. You are very close to Flint in this regard and it's gotten worse over the last year. Go do your own research on foxnews.com, then you'll believe it. Oh, and do a search on Trent Lott and ethics (you'll find some interesting info), or is that DeLay... there are so many to choose from.
Lets recap good buddy,

I laid out a scenerio.

You said it... and I quote "because it bears no resemblance to what really happened"

You don't explain how or why, or how you know. We should just accept your word as truth even though it is comon knowledge that no one in the public sector knows what really happened yet (present company excluded ofcourse:rolleyes: )

You are slipping my friend, just admit you made an attempt to be witty or an attempt to make me look silly and accomplished the reverse. You can't win em all Shaun.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-12-2005 06:18 AM

We'll add "win" to the list.

928ram 07-12-2005 06:24 AM

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If she wasn't (at least on the face of it) deemed a covert agent, why would anyone bother with an investigation?
Apparently the "company" she worked for may have been a CIA front, it may be that said company's exposure is at the root of this. It's possible that classified material was released into the wrong hands also.

While everyone condemns/defends Rove, I don't see any entertaining of the possibility that a seperate crime/situation was uncovered during the outing inquiries. Cop responds to domestic violence call, while there he uncovers meth lab; that sort of thing.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-12-2005 06:26 AM

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Originally posted by 928ram
Apparently the "company" she worked for may have been a CIA front, it may be that said company's exposure is at the root of this. It's possible that classified material was released into the wrong hands also.

While everyone condemns/defends Rove, I don't see any entertaining of the possibility that a seperate crime/situation was uncovered during the outing inquiries. Cop responds to domestic violence call, while there he uncovers meth lab; that sort of thing.


Watergate?

928ram 07-12-2005 06:33 AM

Plamegate or Rovegate maybe? I wonder how long we'll have to wait before shallowthroat is exposed.

techweenie 07-12-2005 07:25 AM

So if I understand fint:

Wilson's claim that Saddam was not actively trying to buy uranium from Niger has not been refuted. But somehow Wilson was treasonous for stating that fact?

And somehow that justifies harming national security by outing a CIA operative whose agents are risking their lives to monitor WMD activities in the midddle east?

Can somebody please explain that to me?

kach22i 07-12-2005 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by 928ram
Rovegate
Love it, I'm going to be using it.

Thanks.:)

Shaun @ Tru6 07-12-2005 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by kach22i
Love it, I'm going to be using it.

Thanks.:)

I like Karlgate.

bryanthompson 07-12-2005 07:33 AM

Anything ya can fit on a bumper sticker, right? :p


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