Where to find MSRP on New Tractors

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

Yep, it is getting to be that time. But I cannot seem to find a website that has MSRP listings for new tractors. Anyone out there who might have insight? Thanks,

[turbo6bar]

No such thing, but I've heard there are state government web sites that list their discount prices (probably close to dealer cost). What brand?

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

John Deere has pricing on their site (OUCH!!!) but we are looking at Mahindra, Massey Ferguson, and Kuboto in that order. Any other thoughts?

We are replacing a 1948 Farmall B, so everything is modern to us... We want to be able to pull a minimum 5' shredder, better for 6', three point rear so we can attach a post hole digger, PTO, and want hydraulics and a bucket on the front.

[Teutonics]

Not sure if this is what you are looking for or not... sounds like you want "brand new":

Tractor Price Guide

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[Seahawk]

I have three MF tractors. an older 240 and two CG200s, which I mow pastures, seed and do light bucket work with. My rational for the new MFs was service...I would have bought a Kutota given the price and performance deals available, but no dealers are within 70 miles. Plus the old tractor runs great and I have a boat load of accessories I've picked up over the years and refurbished. All have three point hitches of varying capability.
A friend of mine in Arkansas just bought a complete Kubota package that included trailer, bucker loader, backhoe and mid mound mower deck for less than 20k. Very tough to beat given the fact that the diesel motors are bullet proof and the accessories top notch.
My experience has been, has I'm sure yours has been given the age of your Farmall, is that routine maintenance is key.
BTW, the new hydraulic tractors are incredibily easy to use.
Enjoy.

[Franklin]

Take a look at some of th JD's made for foreign markets. They don't have air, stereos or cup holders but they can be had in the 15/16 range with 50+ hp.

[turbo6bar]

Originally posted by Groesbeck Hurricane
John Deere has pricing on their site (OUCH!!!) but we are looking at Mahindra, Massey Ferguson, and Kuboto in that order. Any other thoughts?

We are replacing a 1948 Farmall B, so everything is modern to us... We want to be able to pull a minimum 5' shredder, better for 6', three point rear so we can attach a post hole digger, PTO, and want hydraulics and a bucket on the front.

25HP geared tractor or 30HP hydrostat will do fine for the 5' brush hog. My brother and I recently upgraded from a 15 year old Massey Ferguson 1125 to a Kubota L3130. We paid $18300, with Kubota handling financing at 0% for 36 months. It pays to shop around. Our local dealer wanted $2000 more. We do all the maintenance ourselves, so dealer support was not a consideration. Besides, if you buy a quality tractor, it shouldn't break.

John Deere is definitely the most expensive tractor out there. I thought they were the best, but the Grand L Kubota is an incredible tractor. On top of that, the Kubota was cheaper than the comparable New Holland and MF. Massey makes nice tractors, but we could not find one with hydrostatic transmission.

I would wholeheartedly recommend hydrostatic transmission for brush hog and loader work. I wholeheartedly recommend the Kubota tractor. A good portion of the Kubota is assembled in the USA, and the loader is fabricated in Georgia.

Go to http://www.tractorbynet.com for pricing info. You can search the individuals forums for specific models and get pricing.
jurgen

[Franklin]

A 25hp tractor is great for a 5' brush hog if you are going down hill all the time. Uphill runs at 2 mph make pasture mowing a long term proposition. There is no such thing as to much horsepower and I wouldn't consider anything less than 50. By the way I have an old Ford 1620 and it is a very reliable tractor.

[turbo6bar]

Depends on the needs of the owner. I would never consider taking a 50 HP tractor on the lawns of my rental properties or my client's properties. What's the going weight on a 50HP tractor?

The 25HP Massey had 23 HP at the PTO and handled a light duty 60" Bushhog with no problems in 3' grass.

[Bob's Flat-Six]

I bought an Industrial 4x4 Massey Ferguson 40E skiploader new in 1989 @ $30,500 and still have it. It has a 3 cyl. Perkins w/Turbo. I think it has about 60Hp and weighs maybe 7 tons with water in all the tires. It's the second Massey I've owned out of 5 tractors in all.
I don't think MF makes an industrial tractor anymore just farm. I think Terex has there industrial design now.

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

Thanks yall!! Please keep the cards and letters coming!

We looked a bit at a Kuboto and a Maharinda. The Kubota just seemed kind of light weight in comparison (L3400 to the 3325) of the capabilities, weight, and just the feel of the metal. I have yet to review the New Holland or the Massey in person.

I'm kind of leaning to 30 to 50 HP as it would be nice to have a six foot cutter. (23 acres at my home and 400 to mow at my in-laws land) Larger than 6 foot would not be good at the in-laws land due to the lay of the land. The Farmall was pulling the 6 foot shredder just fine. I'm not sold on 4 wheel drive, but the hydrostatic transmission just seems like a very nice option.

I'm leaning towards new because the used tractors I have looked at have all been very, very poor. Newer than the 48 and in worse shape!!

We want the bucket so we can move around objects (dirt rocks) and we will need to start putting in more post holes soon. I'm kind of tired (lazy?) of putting those in by hand!

Franklin,

What are the "name brands" of the JD made for foreign market?

[Bob's Flat-Six]

What ever you get, GET 4 wheel drive and a hydrostatic transmission.
You can thank me later

[turbo6bar]

I think hydrostatic transmissions are only available on the smaller tractors, say under 40 HP, or am a wrong? With those kind of acres, I would get a large utility tractor with cab and a monstrous mower with wings.

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

Hydrostatic transmissions are only on the smaller tractors at this time. I understand there are still some problems associated with them. The in-laws land is rocky and rugged. Larger than a six foot mower would not work. 4-wheel drive makes some sense, I've just always seen the 4-wheel folks getting into problems while I drove past them in my rear wheel drive truck and waved. only times I've been stuck in something other than the diesel was in 4-wheel drive vehicles.

[Franklin]

David, the one my friend bought was a yellow and green John Deere. No funny furrin name. I used it to mow my pasture this spring and it was awesome. It wasn't a hydro like my ford but basically you decide how fast you want to go and select a range and a gear and forget it. If the ford ever heads off to tractor heaven, the "Indian" JD would be my first choice.

[Bob's Flat-Six]

My Massey has a torque converter transmission, 4 speeds in an H pattern. It has a PTO, though I've never run anything off it.
When I bought that tractor it was one of the first 4X4's in it's model to be sold. I wasn't sure about the need for the 4 wheel drive either coming from a 2 wheel drive tractor.
The difference it makes is comparable to when we went from gas to diesel, IMO.

I've done many jobs that a two wheel drive wouldn't have handled. The power to the front wheels will steer you out of situations that without power you would just plow the front wheels.
With a loader bucket and the added weight that's putting out front you'll lighten up the rear wheels sometimes loosing traction that the front wheel drive can make up for.
The front wheels going through the drive train also give you a big advantage in braking, holding back on a slope or ?

I've worked around all types of heavy equipment in earthwork, so my experience might not apply to your needs.

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

I'm going by a JD dealer today to kick some tyres, thanks Richard!!

Bob,

Point taken. We are going to need a front bucket, and the in-laws land is uneven but it is up for sale...