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Rick V 07-28-2005 03:53 PM

hows this for an idea?
 
instead of spending the millions of dollars it costs to send up a shuttle we spend the money on feeding the hungry or hiring new teachers or police (the non radar equiped type).
or use the money to fund recerch for altermative fuels?

stevepaa 07-28-2005 03:59 PM

Support for JPL gives a better ROI, IMHO.

pohsche 07-28-2005 04:10 PM

Like your suggestion, but let's go one better. Bring our young kids home from Iraq, Fire Bush, Chaney, and Halliburton so they quit sucking the life blood out of our economy and our country's future, save enough from that to do all you suggested and probably still have enough to play spaceman.

Alan Poh
'77 Carrera 3.0

Racerbvd 07-28-2005 04:28 PM

I say we put the homeless and liberals on shuttle missions and let them "save" (destroy another planet. So the rest of America can get on with our business

M.D. Holloway 07-28-2005 04:48 PM

or RacerBVD could sell his stable and support a small nation for 3 years!

KevinP73 07-28-2005 05:03 PM

Re: hows this for an idea?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick V

or use the money to fund recerch for altermative fuels?

or publik schools so we can be lernin to spell bedder.

bryanthompson 07-28-2005 05:08 PM

I've always thought we should get a little island where liberals are free to tax as they please, make whatever laws they want, fornicate with whatever they feel like, and watch their policies fail.

Racerbvd 07-28-2005 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
or RacerBVD could sell his stable and support a small nation for 3 years!
Funny, I though about selling everything, and I mean everything a few years back and moving to the islands:cool: But I like my toys too much:D

Rick V 07-28-2005 05:14 PM

hey Kevin I type with a lisp:)

DaveE 07-28-2005 05:21 PM

"I say we put the homeless and liberals on shuttle missions and let them "save" (destroy another planet. So the rest of America can get on with our business"

"I've always thought we should get a little island where liberals are free to tax as they please, make whatever laws they want, fornicate with whatever they feel like, and watch their policies fail."

The thing I love most is the irony of this free country where anyone who questions policy is told to leave.

KevinP73 07-28-2005 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick V
hey Kevin I type with a lisp:)
Oh I see. I thought you bit your tongue while you were having that thought.

dd74 07-28-2005 05:31 PM

Re: hows this for an idea?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick V
instead of spending the millions of dollars it costs to send up a shuttle we spend the money on feeding the hungry or hiring new teachers or police (the non radar equiped type).
or use the money to fund recerch for altermative fuels?

It doesn't matter; the shuttle program's been grounded...

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-space28.html

bryanthompson 07-28-2005 05:32 PM

"The thing I love most is the irony of this free country where anyone who questions policy is told to leave."

It's not like we'd be exiling libs, this would be a voluntary thing where they could go and experiment. It would be great to see them be able to institute their policies as hardcore as they want to, then watch them fail, over, and over, and over. It'd be their own little petree dish of filth and immorality... but they'd call it paradise.

KevinP73 07-28-2005 05:35 PM

Re: Re: hows this for an idea?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dd74
It doesn't matter; the shuttle program's been grounded...

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-space28.html

Grounded not Canceled

lendaddy 07-28-2005 05:37 PM

Re: Re: hows this for an idea?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dd74
It doesn't matter; the shuttle program's been grounded...

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-space28.html

Yet not a soul at NASA will lose their job.................Soak it in..........Soak it in.

vash 07-28-2005 05:37 PM

get NASA to perfect the solar panel and make it cheap.

how much spent on the war, sofar? let's say 300billion, round it off nice and neat. my friend got an estimate for $25k to install one on his house. that is enough money to put up 12 million solar panels. how many homes are there in the US? it would be really good for the earth, and the the gov wouldnt car about me putting SSI's on my 81 SC.

gaijindabe 07-28-2005 06:22 PM

Has there ever been a richer society in the history of the world. And dont we get tax break for a bunch of this stuff?? Who in the wild, wild world of sports are we waiting for?

Hungry neighbors? Join that food bank.

Lack of teachers?? Become a literacy volunteer.

Hey, or even an auxiliary police person. (They never have radar.)

Alternate fuels? Get the snapper running on corn liquor.

If you (we) wait for the Feds, this aint never going to happen..

Shaun @ Tru6 07-28-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Re: Re: hows this for an idea?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
Yet not a soul at NASA will lose their job.................Soak it in..........Soak it in.
it's the George Tenet plan. they're all getting medals of freedom.

turbocarrera 07-28-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
I've always thought we should get a little island where liberals are free to tax as they please, make whatever laws they want, fornicate with whatever they feel like, and watch their policies fail.
..as opposed to conservative policies that sold Saddam chemical weapons, trained and funded Bin Laden, etc..

How's that been workin' out for ya, Bryan?

bryanthompson 07-28-2005 07:50 PM

Pretty good, as evidenced by the 50 million peeps we freed in the mid-east. The only people upset about all of this are you guys and the terrorists. Kindof makes me feel all warm inside.

BGCarrera32 07-28-2005 08:11 PM

What irritates the hell out of me is that Iraq is sitting on some of the largest oil reserves in the whole world. If they got their act together they'd be one of the largest super powers in the world inside of 10 years. But no, they have the best security force in the world on hand with the best infrastructure engineering talent in the world on loan...but NOOOO...they'll run around and blow each other up and act like idiots. Ever watch this crap on TV?? The next cleric is spouting off or something blew up and there's like 1000 guys in a crowd of people out milling around in the middle of the day, in the middle of nowhere. Don't these people have anything better to do all day? Go home and do something productive. Gimme a break :rolleyes:

RickM 07-28-2005 08:19 PM

NASA develops much of the technology that is used to advance our consumer products considerably.

Hey, they came up with WD-40. ;)

Saintly 07-28-2005 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by RickM
NASA develops much of the technology that is used to advance our consumer products considerably.

Hey, they came up with WD-40. ;)

Ahh.. No, not NASA
"WD-40 was invented in 1953, by the three members of the Rocket Chemical Company of San Diego, California. They were working on a line of industrial rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry. WD-40 was first used to protect the outer skin of the Atlas Missile from rust and corrosion. Norm Larsen then repackaged WD-40 into aerosol cans for consumer use and the product was first sold to the general public in 1958. In 1969, the Rocket Chemical Company was renamed after its only product, WD-40"

dd74 07-28-2005 08:40 PM

Re: Re: Re: hows this for an idea?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by KevinP73
Grounded not Canceled
Well, this iteration of shuttle is due to be retired by 2010. I'd be surprised if they send another up before then. Heck, the only reason I can see putting another shuttle into orbit is for pride's sake on the part of NASA, which would be a true waste of money.

RickM 07-28-2005 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Saintly
Ahh.. No, not NASA
"WD-40 was invented in 1953, by the three members of the Rocket Chemical Company of San Diego, California. They were working on a line of industrial rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry. WD-40 was first used to protect the outer skin of the Atlas Missile from rust and corrosion. Norm Larsen then repackaged WD-40 into aerosol cans for consumer use and the product was first sold to the general public in 1958. In 1969, the Rocket Chemical Company was renamed after its only product, WD-40"


Damn! I heard that a few guys from NASA came up with it and used at home for years. Finally sold the marketing rights for public consumption. Should have looked this up on Snopes. :)

M.D. Holloway 07-28-2005 09:17 PM

Guys - gimme a freak'n break! WD40! I can provide any of you the formula for a product that would produce a product that blows its doors off! WD40 is a freak'n scam! It stinks plain and simple!

pwd72s 07-28-2005 11:04 PM

Mike...while you're on that topic, what's your thinking on the Valvoline "syn power" (or whatever they call it) spray can lube?

dd74 07-28-2005 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
Guys - gimme a freak'n break! WD40! I can provide any of you the formula for a product that would produce a product that blows its doors off! WD40 is a freak'n scam! It stinks plain and simple!
My bicycle chain and I are listening (er... reading )SmileWavy

fintstone 07-29-2005 12:34 AM

Take the money from NASA and put it to a better cause? Good idea! Lets spend it on the military and clean up the rest of the countries that harbor terrorists now...LOL

Superman 07-29-2005 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
I've always thought we should get a little island where liberals are free to tax as they please, make whatever laws they want, fornicate with whatever they feel like, and watch their policies fail.
You appear to mean policies like "freedom?"

kach22i 07-29-2005 07:10 AM

Federal budget amounts for shuttle missions and PBS are very small drops in the bucket.

Want to say money? Vote the republicans out of office, they do nothing but spend, spend, spend.

Don't make me post another chart.:cool:

bryanthompson 07-29-2005 07:15 AM

Your charts might have more credibility if you didnt draw them with crayons.

kach22i 07-29-2005 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
Your charts might have more credibility if you didnt draw them with crayons.
If you are done with my crayons, wash them off and give them back to me. And this time I don't want them delivered to me at your arses body tempature.
:p

tobster1911 07-29-2005 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
...we should get a little island...
You might want to ask him about that first.....:D

hoff944 07-29-2005 09:28 AM

Good point BG. My friend who spent a year in Iraq said the reason the people appear so lazy is because it is so hot. Money is a great motivator though.

Racerbvd 07-29-2005 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
"The thing I love most is the irony of this free country where anyone who questions policy is told to leave."

It's not like we'd be exiling libs, this would be a voluntary thing where they could go and experiment. It would be great to see them be able to institute their policies as hardcore as they want to, then watch them fail, over, and over, and over. It'd be their own little petree dish of filth and immorality... but they'd call it paradise.

I'm still waiting for all the liberal who promised to leave when President Bush was reelected and now that nasty wire reporter is saying that she will kill herself if the VP runs in 2008, I hope Dick runs and many other liberal follow her lead. But of course, very few liberals ever do what they say, so we are stuck with them and their empty threats:(

bryanthompson 07-29-2005 10:27 AM

Supe, Kach, k911, Shawn, take note. That's an example of a good leftie post... Witty and with some truth.

Well played, JC, well played :)

lendaddy 07-29-2005 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JanusCole
Sadly, this idea has already been tried and it didn't work out as planned. The liberals were marooned in a region of the country commonly called the "blue states" where they went absolutely WILD with their crazy morals and taxes. And they ended up with lower divorce rates than the red states...

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/10/31/walking_the_walk_on_family_values/

Indeed, the bluest state, Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in America. The blue states also have higher average household incomes.

http://www.oregonherald.com/n/radicalruss/20041212_red-state-moral-values.html

And to add insult to injury, those terrible blues refuse to admit their failures and hide it by having 85 percent of the venture capitol and paying two thirds of the nation's tax revenues.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041109-122753-5113r.htm

This last number really irks me. Like most of you, I am in the top tax bracket. And it really annoys me when New England closes another military base (ruining the local economy) or cancels another program in order to keep subsidizing the never-ending mistakes and failures of the ungrateful whiners in the red states. I am a very big fan of lower taxation, self-reliance and personal responsibility. And so I believe every state should be revenue neutral. The red states have the audacity to take our money and then COMPLAIN ABOUT TAX RATES! Make every state pay its own way and the bluer states will see their taxes lowered, services improved, and even more economic, educational, and social/family successes on top of the disproportionate success we already enjoy.


Trying to use the "blue state" term to account for all the achievements of those states is a lil dishonest no?

Do you really think it's because of Democrats that Mass has such a low divorce rate? Or maybe because of the high percentage of Catholics that don't allow/believe in divorce? Honesty my man honesty.

Also, what percentage of the venture catitalist inside your "blue states" are actually democrats? Ok thanks.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-29-2005 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
Trying to use the "blue state" term to account for all the achievements of those states is a lil dishonest no?

Do you really think it's because of Democrats that Mass has such a low divorce rate? Or maybe because of the high percentage of Catholics that don't allow/believe in divorce? Honesty my man honesty.

Also, what percentage of the venture catitalist inside your "blue states" are actually democrats? Ok thanks.

According to U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2003 Statistical Tables, domestic violences is significantly (listed by region) higher in red states vs. blue states.

Could that be why the divorce rate is so high in Red States?

lendaddy 07-29-2005 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JanusCole


Not relevent. bryanthompson suggested that it was the liberal policies that would bring about failure. And so the proof is in the pudding. It doesn't matter whether those policies are enacted by dems or reps. The numbers show that the policies work. Period.

First on the divorce thing.. Catholics have no better or worse morals in my opinion, it's just that their religion is very strict in this one area. Also, many get their marriages annulled(not counted as a divorce) to skirt the system (John Kerry).

But anyway as to Bryans point then:

Take a look at California as a liberal bastion. It is blessed in ways that most states could only dream of...plentiful and logistically perfect ports, fantastic weather, tourism dollars, etc, etc..... Yet even they with all these "leg-ups" cannot afford the liberal programs their leaders would force on ALL states, even those like.....say Kentucky. Now, pray tell, if Cali can't afford it, how the heck is Kentucky going to do it?

And just because there exists liberal policy AND positive achievements does not mean liberal policy = positive achievements.


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