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nrcitygal 08-19-2005 10:00 AM

A different kind of "model"
 
Hi there ya'll. I have recently been convinced that I should pursue modeling. Please check my pics out and my website and let me know you're feedback - rate me, critique me, complement me and talk me up to your successful photographers, too! I'm laid back, so feel free to comment away - Thanks in advance!

http://member.onemodelplace.com/model_list.cfm?ID=189322

http://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=25527

IROC 08-19-2005 10:03 AM

Is anyone else besides me afraid to click on the links above?

Mike

nrcitygal 08-19-2005 10:04 AM

My friend Kevin Taylor will vouch that I'm for real....he 'lives' on this board.

Tim Walsh 08-19-2005 10:05 AM

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Kevin Taylor 08-19-2005 10:06 AM

No Spam. Good Links.

K.T.
1973 911E 2.4 MFI
1983 911 SC
1965 Devin "D" - 1967 912 Power Plant

bryanthompson 08-19-2005 10:07 AM

oh come on, how many spammers do you know are from lenexa, kansas? ... and with a username of 'nrcitygal'... :p

djmcmath 08-19-2005 10:42 AM

Safe for work?

nrcitygal 08-19-2005 10:47 AM

Yes no nudity

Kevin Taylor 08-19-2005 10:55 AM

Oh..........and be nice. This is a friend of mine and would like to keep it that way. THANKS.

K.T.
1973 911E 2.4 MFI
1983 911 SC
1965 Devin "D" - 1967 912 Power Plant

livi 08-19-2005 10:57 AM

Well, thats Off Topic, all right..

bryanthompson 08-19-2005 10:58 AM

so... it isn't spam or it is?

kach22i 08-19-2005 10:59 AM

My two cents...............

RE:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=25527

1. Bikini picture is your best one - it's the grin, like it.

2. Never put someone hotter than your self in the same picture.

3. Get a better photographer, lighting in the last two pictures is not as good as the first two pictures. Lighting is as important as you are.

4. Car guys are going to react to different stimuli than fashion professionals. I am a design professional and apparently reacting to techincal details of the photographs. Is there anything wrong with your teeth? Why are they not showing?

5. I guess you are the right height and weight, right time, right place who knows what can happen - good luck.

Tishabet 08-19-2005 11:12 AM

on the modelmayhem site, your worst pic is the one that you have "up front" (looking over your shoulder in the skirt) so I woudl replace it. I agree with kach (for probably the first time in my life) that you're hot in the bikini shot.

nrcitygal 08-19-2005 11:16 AM

Tshabet, thank you
which bikini shot are you referring to?
Also, what about the "looking over my shoulder" pic is not good? me, or the lighting?

nrcitygal 08-19-2005 11:20 AM

My onemodelplace site...doesnt seem to be coming up when you click on it. You can go to where it says model ID or model # and type in 189322. Only one new pic on there..
I have several shoots coming up so there should be more photos in a week or two. I appreciate the feedback so far.

Tishabet 08-19-2005 11:21 AM

In the "over the shoulder" shot both you and the photographer look amateur....fuzzy, not well framed, etc.

nrcitygal 08-19-2005 11:22 AM

yeah, it was my first pic ever to put on the site before I got hits from photographers wanting to shoot me professionally. I plan to take it off once I get the better ones developed.

juanbenae 08-19-2005 11:31 AM

im not tugging at my spam over those shots.

gassy 08-19-2005 11:33 AM

I run a commercial photo studio in Chicago and we use models all the time--PM me if you want me to send you some comps of the models we use so you can see the lighting/poses/attitudes/wardrobe they have.
Christian.

djmcmath 08-19-2005 11:37 AM

1 - "Sly" ... I'll be the first dissenter. It's not bad, but the background is distracting. Wider aperture would have cleaned it up some, or using a simpler background.
2 - "Mystique." I'm sorry, but I'm not mystified. Really, you've got more of a mischeivous look than a mystical look. Photographically, it's a pretty good shot -- good background, good sharpness, it works. The problem is that the composition draws your eye to the other girl. The scarf/boa/thing seems like an attempt to connect you two, but it doesn't quite work, imho.
3 - Sensuous -- You look unhappy. Very unhappy. The small mouth, the angled-down face, the dark eyes -- it says unhappy to me. And I'll second the lighting comments from above. It looks like flash-shadow around the left side, and it's pretty distracting. The other note is composition -- your face is centered. Ideally, the photographer would have placed your face off-center, so that you (rather than the background) fill the image, and the viewer's eye is led across your body to your face. The below cropped image should illustrate that.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1124480256.jpg
4 - Untitled, looking back over shoulder - Good modelling work, bad photographer. Your pose is nice; I won't go into detail, but it works fine. The lighting, however, is just awful, I'm sorry. Mostly washed out, big shadow in lower right, with no contrast across your face.


I hope that helps, and that I'm not too harsh -- you've got a great start, but you need a better photographer.

nrcitygal 08-19-2005 11:43 AM

Taking notes - You sound like you know what you're talking about when it comes to photography. You are not too harsh - I recognize that I'm new at this, appreciate you takin the time to post. You're right on all counts

speeder 08-19-2005 11:48 AM

I can tell you that input from random strangers is going to be of negligible value at best, when it comes to the modeling industry, is it possible to show your pictures to an agent?

I have never worked in that business but I've been around it enough to know the ABCs; (where to start?), OK, #1 is that there are different types of "modeling" from actual big city/big bucks/fashion-type models to smaller market (local/regional) work that is obviously not as competitive. The only problem is that there is not enough work in even the 2nd tier markets like Chicago to make a living, much less Shawnee, KS.

The gentlest way to describe the "A" model world is that you would have to be an absolutely traffic-stopping/stunning 15-16 y.o. that is a minimum of 5'10" tall to even be remotely in the running to get a major agent. And by stunning, I do not mean just the prettiest girl in high school, you would have to photograph in dazzling way from any conceivable angle. To call it competitive and cruel would be the understatement of the century, you wonder why anyone would even want to be involved w/ it. Maybe it is the 7-figure incomes that even non-superstar "A" models earn as teenagers. ;)

A 20 y.o. who is as described above would have a tough time getting signed in N.Y., there is just such a pipeline of 15 y.o. supermodels from Croatia and Brazil that never ends. Did I mention competitive? I cannot think of a current female movie star who could make it as a model in NY, with the exception of Charlise Theron, (15 years ago). The women in the grid girls pictures on this board are not even "B" level models by a country mile, "B" models are still stunning but too short or too old, (20s), etc.. They can be big earners, still.

Obviously there are industries where women are photographed that are technically modeling, I suppose, but you are a nice girl, right? :)

Bottom line is that a woman can be really cute, (like you), and not be a model. And that is not a bad thing. The modeling industry sucks.

nrcitygal 08-19-2005 11:53 AM

I am not looking to be a runway supermodel. I assess my looks my realize that I am not that material and yes, am way too old.
Its a tough industry, and I plan to keep my current career/job and pursue my masters. Modeling is a fun side show for me, but one that I hope I can make a little extra money with, and besides, its alot of fun!

I am hoping to do some commercial modeling, jewelry modeling, jeans modeling etc......

Burnin' oil 08-19-2005 11:55 AM

Wow, Denis. Sounds like you're a tad bitter. Had a bad experience? Maybe you need a different agent. . .

lendaddy 08-19-2005 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Burnin' oil
Wow, Denis. Sounds like you're a tad bitter. Had a bad experience? Maybe you need a different agent. . .
lol:)

I know some models too, and Dennis is correct. If you just want to make a little money you should be just fine. Just know that "little" means exactly that. Most of the income from being a female model is via the sugardaddies not paychecks.

speeder 08-19-2005 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Burnin' oil
Wow, Denis. Sounds like you're a tad bitter. Had a bad experience? Maybe you need a different agent. . .
Not in the least, there....., uh, I guess you don't give your name. :cool:

What I offered above is a very mild reality check/overview about an industry that the average person doesn't know, (or probably care), anything about.

Personally, I have never worked a day in my life, or ever pursued work in that business. It is not a "fun" business, nothing could be further from the truth. I have just been exposed to it enough through other people to know the very basics of it, and sharing it with this young lady who is asking for advice. (In the wrong place, I might add). Take care.

speeder 08-19-2005 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nrcitygal
I am not looking to be a runway supermodel. I assess my looks my realize that I am not that material and yes, am way too old.
Its a tough industry, and I plan to keep my current career/job and pursue my masters. Modeling is a fun side show for me, but one that I hope I can make a little extra money with, and besides, its alot of fun!

I am hoping to do some commercial modeling, jewelry modeling, jeans modeling etc......

That's cool, and I hope that you do get to make some $$ doing it. But like I said, there is not much work even in 2nd tier markets that are big cities, (and therefore very competitive for the scraps), so keep that in mind. I think that I am doing you a favor by giving you the reality of the business, despite what others here might say. Take care. :cool:

techweenie 08-19-2005 03:05 PM

I've cast a bunch of models and actresses over the past couple of decades for marketing, advertising and promotional work, so I feel qualified to comment.

I looked at the One Model Place port. and once I got over the shock of seeing that you are a dead ringer for an ex-girlfriend of mine -- not only face, but figure; measurements, etc. I came up with a few suggestions:

1. Stylist. no photos without a good stylist. Don't be offended, please. everybody needs a stylist in this business.

2. Pro photographer. no boyfriends, pals, or TFP shooters. You need a real photographer with a great portfolio that will take the time to do it right. No real photographer would have used a telephoto lens for the 'sly' image unless he was purposely trying to give you a much bigger booty than you have.

3. Kill the "art" and "artist model" checkboxes. There's nothing but grief there.

Your best course of action for the amount of work you want to do is to find a company you can 'spokesmodel' for. If you can deliver a line on video, so much the better. This type of gig is recurring and can ultimately bring income to help with tuition. The one-time shoots are going to be few and far between in your part of the world. You'll make 50 trips for one gig.

Good luck. There are many more opportunities if you go to the 'big city' but then, you know that. It might be worth making a trip to find a good photographer, though. A good portfolio will open many more doors.

djmcmath 08-19-2005 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Burnin' oil
Wow, Denis. Sounds like you're a tad bitter. Had a bad experience? Maybe you need a different agent. . .
I can practically see Speeder, in my minds eye: "Check out my new look! I call it (dramatic pause) 'Blue Ice.'" lol

speeder 08-19-2005 10:57 PM

"You're just jealous because you didn't get the 'dereliction' campaign."

"Derelict my balls!"

"How about a 'Thanks for the freakfest last night?'"

:D :D

Mulhollanddose 08-19-2005 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nrcitygal
Tshabet, thank you
which bikini shot are you referring to?
Also, what about the "looking over my shoulder" pic is not good? me, or the lighting?

Get a pro to shoot you...don't go to any of those pay-for scam modeling scout services...Go to New York, find the best "test" photographer and walk in to the agents and see what happens...You never know.

Oh ya...Do you like ultra-insecure people with big-egos and very artificial?...If you don't, you are going to need to take up a coke/alcohol habit to deal with them; which you will find readily in that industry.

To qualify - I have been paid in the legitimate modeling industry and have done fashion shows in Barcelona.

TSNAPCRACKLEPOP 08-21-2005 01:55 PM

well, you are a far sight prettier than any shots i have ever seen of Kevin, except maybe his cute baby pictures!!! LOL dr tom

BlueSkyJaunte 08-21-2005 02:38 PM

You'd knock 'em dead in Japan, that is until they find a new "thing" 2 weeks later.


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