What do you think is America's biggest problem? - Page 2

Mulhollanddose · 09-15-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by CamB
I might change my mind if you could provide (non-partisan) proof that the Democrat party is socialist. A laundry list of some of their policies isn't gonna cut it either - they have plenty of right wing policies too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum [/B]

What will be the goals of our socialist society?

* A life free of exploitation, insecurity, poverty; an end to unemployment, hunger and homelessness.

* An end to racism, national oppression, anti-Semitism, all forms of discrimination, prejudice and bigotry. An end to the unequal status of women.

* Renewal and extension of democracy; an end to the rule of corporate America and private ownership of the wealth of our nation. Creation of a truly humane and rationally planned society that will stimulate the fullest flowering of the human personality, creativity and talent.

Communist Party USA

Liberals/progressives=socialists/communists...They now hide behind the former terms, but they are identical to communists and fascists ideologically...The language has changed into code...you know, they know (communists and socialists) and politicians know what they suggest.

CamB · CamB's Garage

And what did the Communist Party poll in the last election? Are they the same as the Democrats?

The questions on the political compass site appear to be biased to you because you are biased. Someone similarly biased to the left would find the exact same questions to be right biased.

Your criticism is answered in the very first FAQ on their site...

And you should be happy with the political compass - it shows Fascism as "up" (not left right) - Hitler and Stalin are as fascist as each other - but Hitler has less communism.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/analysis2.php

Can't you just read it and think about it, rather than denigrating it because it doesn't immediately fit your predetermined view of the world. The two axis model is pretty elegant, although it makes your black/white assertion pretty hard to live with I suppose.

pwd72s · 09-15-2005, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamB
And what did the Communist Party poll in the last election? Are they the same as the Democrats?

Pretty close, Cam...pretty close.

Mulhollanddose · 09-15-2005, 04:43 PM

Cam, the first question is If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations....Dude, is that question not loaded?

It is impossible to answer the question accurately...Some think that trans-continential corporations do not act against humanity, but the question leads the test taker to thinking somehow they are mutually exclusive...Any answer would have to agree to the premise, which is false...Many, not all, of the rest of the questions are similarly framed.

turbocarrera · 09-15-2005, 04:46 PM

capitalism...

Mul is a close second..

just kidding Mul you make some good points..

Rick V · 09-15-2005, 04:48 PM

liberals

Mulhollanddose · 09-15-2005, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamB
And what did the Communist Party poll in the last election? Are they the same as the Democrats?

You love these questionable websites like widipedia and political compass.com...Surely you will enjoy snopes?

The latter point is applicable in this case. The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) has chosen not to field their own candidate in the 2004 presidential election. Since the CPUSA would be classified as a party of the "far left," their platform is more likely to mesh with that of — and thus they are more likely to support the candidate of — the Democratic Party, the more leftward of the two major political parties.

I used the color red for you Cam

Snopes

turbo6bar · 09-15-2005, 04:55 PM

I agree with two presented before: personal responsibility and rampant consumer spending.

Drago · Drago's Garage

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Originally posted by SoCal911SC
Lack of personal responsibility.

I agree.

CamB · CamB's Garage

I can't be bothered arguing about it.

New fact - I live in a country with more than two political parties for whom people vote. On that basis alone, I feel I observe a far greater political spectrum than you can.

Accusing wiki of being questionable is inconsistent with a belief in democracy, but I'll leave you to think about it.

There are four options in each political compass question - what would you answer to the question you have a problem with? And how can you have a problem with it if you have no idea how it is reflected in the final answer?

And my biggest freakin problem with what you've said about it - is there another question you have a problem with, or is it just the one?

Oh yeah - so what if the communist party says "vote Democrat". It is about as relevant as a Nationalist party (do you have them?) saying "vote Bush".

tdatk · 09-15-2005, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by turbo6bar
I agree with two presented before: personal responsibility and rampant consumer spending.

On foreign made goods. Anyone checked the Made in _____
lately? Can't all be CEO's of nothing.

john walker's workshop · 09-15-2005, 05:35 PM

religious zealots. not just born again christians. intolerance between religions. hell, that's the world's biggest problem.

Joeaksa · 09-15-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by turbo6bar
I agree with two presented before: personal responsibility and rampant consumer spending.

Agree as well. This needs to be improved before we can move on...

Joe A

Matt Holcomb · Matt Holcomb's Garage

What is America's biggest problem?

You mean problems:

The Christian right.
The NRA.
The Military-industrial complex.
The trade deficit.
Rampant capitalism.
Narcissism.
Marginalisation.
Donald Rumsfeld.
Karl Rove.
Dick Cheney.

And ... the ... entire ... Bush ... clan.

Purge these things and the murderous jihadists will go away. Promise.

lendaddy · 09-15-2005, 05:47 PM

People that think like the post above

Mulhollanddose · 09-15-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by john walker's workshop
religious zealots. not just born again christians. intolerance between religions. hell, that's the world's biggest problem.

Right...they are all exactly alike...Dude, you need to do your homework. This is a Christian nation and that is precisely why we are so peaceful, generous, caring and welcoming of all cultures who respect and appreciate our way of life...According to your reasoning George Washington, James Madison, John Adams and majority of the rest of the founders should have been stopped.

jriera · 09-15-2005, 05:52 PM

Unions

(Nobody has said that in a long time)

Mulhollanddose · 09-15-2005, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Holcomb
What is America's biggest problem?

You mean problems:

No Christian right.
No NRA.
Military-industrial complex.
Trade deficit.
State controlled capitalism.
Narcissism.
Marginalisation.

There, fixed it to reflect fascism/communism...The greatest evils mankind has ever seen.

skipdup · 09-15-2005, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Holcomb

The Christian right.
The NRA.
The Military-industrial complex.
The trade deficit.
Rampant capitalism.
Narcissism.
Marginalisation.
Donald Rumsfeld.
Karl Rove.
Dick Cheney.

And ... the ... entire ... Bush ... clan.

Wait, this is a list of what's right, right?

bryanthompson · bryanthompson's Garage

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Holcomb
Purge these things and the murderous jihadists will go away. Promise.

Newsflash, Edited. -Z-man Al Qaeda declared jihad on us LONG before Bush had eyes for the whitehouse. Al Qaeda/radical islam is the source of terrorism, not Bush, or us as Americans.