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fintstone 09-23-2005 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by jyl
fint, you seem to have a lot of (barely) repressed anger and defensiveness. Care to share some personal history?
It should be clear that I had just about all the spitting on (by liberal losers)..or being threatened with such.... that I am willing to take, The next one who spits on me will have their spitting mechanism removed. My wearing a uniform will no longer protect them as it did in the '70's.

jyl 09-23-2005 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
It should be clear that I had just about all the spitting on (by liberal losers)..or being threatened with such.... that I am willing to take, The next one who spits on me will have their spitting mechanism removed. My wearing a uniform will no longer protect them as it did in the '70's.
You're still not sharing very much history. Something happened in the 1970s that has you angry to this day. What was it? I assume you were wearing a military uniform.

Mulhollanddose 09-23-2005 08:59 PM

http://clarityandresolve.com/sfmbtry.jpg

Mulhollanddose 09-23-2005 09:32 PM

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjoh...g_protesta.jpg

What the leftist media seem to overlook about the "peaceful protests" of Vietnam -- (note Vietcong and North Vietnamese flags)

jyl 09-23-2005 09:37 PM

Mul, fint and I are trying to have a serious conversation - or at least I am, anyway - so you can just butt out with your silly pictures.

I mean, suppose I find and post a pic of a KKK rally and claim that it represents all conservatives. Would be as silly as your pics.

fintstone 09-23-2005 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by jyl
You're still not sharing very much history. Something happened in the 1970s that has you angry to this day. What was it? I assume you were wearing a military uniform.
I still wear a uniform quite regularly...and in fact, just completed a tour of active duty. I have always been shocked at the left's propensity to spit upon.or otherwise harass folks who are not allowed to defend themselves. The same cowardly lefty would soil themselves if they thought the GI could respond without being held for court martial. I am equally shocked that a member of this BBS would threaten spitting upon another member....and others would find it funny. Did some of you grow up without parents???

fintstone 09-23-2005 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by jyl
Mul, fint and I are trying to have a serious conversation - or at least I am, anyway - so you can just butt out with your silly pictures.

I mean, suppose I find and post a pic of a KKK rally and claim that it represents all conservatives. Would be as silly as your pics.

I've yet to have a conservative spit on me or my family...or even threaten to do so.. liberals have done so several times..and even threatened such on this thread.....so you analogy does not work.

Mulhollanddose 09-23-2005 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by jyl
I mean, suppose I find and post a pic of a KKK rally and claim that it represents all conservatives. Would be as silly as your pics.
If you could find a KKK front group that supports Republicans, I would like to see that...If the KKK grabbed some peace-signs would you jump on board?...So what is the difference when communists do it? afterall communists were worse than fascists.

Good analogy jyl...Democrats supporting the communist motivated "anti-war" movement would be like Republicans supporting KKK pro-war movement...The latter is demonstrably true, the former is absolutely not.

dd74 09-23-2005 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
:rolleyes:
Ditto.

:rolleyes:

In fact, ditto squared:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If it relaxes your sense of history repeating itself, Fint, I bet the troops will be welcomed with open arms and flowers from us as they were said they were via Cheney's vitriol when they were initially forced into this debacle.

No one will spit on them when they return.

fintstone 09-23-2005 10:16 PM

People spit on the military almost every day. Even my family members are spit on. The present duplicates the past...and the left...is still the same.

dd74 09-23-2005 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
People spit on the military almost every day. Even my family members are spit on. The present duplicates the past...and the left...is still the same.
Oh come on! That's utter nonsense. What the hell are you talking about "the people spit on the military almost every day." Where?

I'll give you an example you're full of it: during Gulf I, I took my best friend out for a drink in "Socialist" Santa Monica. Maybe you wouldn't believe that a 1st lieutenant in Marine dress would not get enough free drinks bought for him to load up an entire squad, but this did happen, and in a community where apartment buildings have hammer and sickles painted on their walls.

So I don't know where this spitting stuff comes from. I grew up near the VA hospital in Westwood. Nothing but respect befell those men when they found they had nothing to fear when interacting with the Liberals who made up almost the entire area.

You've displayed conjecture before, Fint, but this is an all time high (or low) for your unfounded accusations...

fintstone 09-23-2005 10:53 PM

Get a clue. Once again an expert on something you know nothing about. Just because the couple of times you have been with a GI and he was treated well does not mean that it has not happened many times to folks who wore that same uniform daily for almost 30 years. That is sort of like someone who rides the bus every day trying to tell me that cops don't give tickets for speeding. I have posted about it happening before on this BBS...and, in fact, it was threatened earlier in this thread. I have never done a lot of the things you claim to have done on this thread..yet I believe you. I even believe you went out drinking with a Marine once....implausible as it seems. That does not change my experience. Not only have I been spit on, but have had tomatoes, ketchup, etc..thrown on me...ruining my uniform which really put my familiy in a financial bind whem I had to replace them on my meager salary. I have had my cars keyed, window glass broken, given the liberal finger..more times than I can count, etc...so don't start with your liberal fairy tales...I know better.

dd74 09-23-2005 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Get a clue. Once again an expert on something you know nothing about. That is sort of like someone who rides the bus every day trying to tell me that cops don't give tickets for speeding. I even believe you went out drinking with a Marine once....implausible as it seems. Not only have I been spit on, but have had tomatoes, ketchup, etc..thrown on me...ruining my uniform which really put my familiy in a financial bind whem I had to replace them on my meager salary. I have had my cars keyed, window glass broken, given the liberal finger..more times than I can count, etc...so don't start with your liberal fairy tales...I know better.
As you've seen, I have snipped down your post (look above), to outline the personal attacks you've included in your reply.

Then I left intact the last part of your reply, where your uniform was ruined and the finger had been given to you.

What I mean to outline here is maybe, because of your attitude, you were made into what they did to actors during days of Shakespeare's Globe Theater - a mockery of an actor made into a walking vegetable garden. After all, vitriol deserves all the rotten tomatoes vitriol can get.

Or was it you were spat on and doused with Heinz 57 not just because of attitude problems but also because you were a bad actor in a military uniform?

fintstone 09-23-2005 11:18 PM

You are a funny man. You call me a liar...then wonder at my reply...And no, these were not people I had met, knew, or had even spoken to. A man in uniform knows to keep his mouth shut in public...as the anti-military folks would like nothing better than to goad him into poor judgement, then report him. Like most GIs, I only wear the uniform at work and direct travel to and from. All they knew was that I wore the uniform...or had the required sticker on my car. Others have posted here that they have received the same.

Admit it, you have never bought a drink for a Marine in your life.

dd74 09-23-2005 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Admit it, you have never bought a drink for a Marine in your life.
Nope. I have. And I consoled him when he returned in tears. I "admit" that...

on-ramp 09-24-2005 05:37 AM

don't blame the good people in uniform that serve and protect us. Blame the politicians.

Rodeo 09-24-2005 05:41 AM

Its not the uniform Dude.

From someone that wore a uniform in the 70's

Now spit-free for 30 years :)

aways 09-24-2005 08:47 AM

I fully understand flintstone's sentiments. I work at a major University and I can tell you that 90% of the faculty/staff are self-described "liberals", and while the vast majority would not spit on a GI, they don't like them much either. They think of the military generally as a bunch of uneducated, overly-patriotic, Rush-loving, dupes. They are almost universally UNGRATEFUL for the sacrifices made by the GIs. When the leftist elites (not every liberal) scream to "bring home the troops" it's usually not out of concern for the GIs, it's to bash the president, and to embarass the country, which to them is morally equivalent to our enemy.

fintstone 09-24-2005 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
Its not the uniform Dude.

From someone that wore a uniform in the 70's

Now spit-free for 30 years :)

Once again, one person's experiences do not necessarily reflect another's. It is not a very complicated concept. There are folks here who drive a 911 here that have never gotten a speeding ticket.....and others who have many. Only an idiot would claim that others did not get tickets...because they did not.
Lots of folks have briefly worn uniforms during their lives...but clearly that length of time that one does anything increases their possibility of different experiences. Also circumstances such as location, whether or not one is alone or in a group, etc are factors. I have had troops who worked for me who would not wear the uniform outside the base and changed their clothes at work every day because of how they were treated. They even lied to all their friends about what they did for a living. It is sad that one would feel they had to live that way...to serve their country.
Thing had gotten better until recently. Probably due to the current shrill attitude of the anti-war crowd. Both my daughter and myself have had recent incidences....I have posted about both here at PP.

fintstone 09-24-2005 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by aways
I fully understand flintstone's sentiments. I work at a major University and I can tell you that 90% of the faculty/staff are self-described "liberals", and while the vast majority would not spit on a GI, they don't like them much either. They think of the military generally as a bunch of uneducated, overly-patriotic, Rush-loving, dupes. They are almost universally UNGRATEFUL for the sacrifices made by the GIs. When the leftist elites (not every liberal) scream to "bring home the troops" it's usually not out of concern for the GIs, it's to bash the president, and to embarass the country, which to them is morally equivalent to our enemy.
Thank you. Yes, it seems that these folks are much different when they have a huge majority. It is obviously much more difficult to attend college in uniform than to wear one around the base.
I have had teachers tell me that they have lowered my grade (specifically because of my uniform). I'm sure others did the same without saying a word. It is particularly difficult for ROTC students who must wear the uniform on campus and endure the throngs of protesters (most of who are not students) and the ridicule of the faculty. They cannot even defend themselves...as they have very high standards for grades and discipline/behavior.
Bad as it is on campus, the current protests attacking GIs at the veteran's hospitals are worse.


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