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What the leftist media seem to overlook about the "peaceful protests" of Vietnam -- (note Vietcong and North Vietnamese flags) |
Mul, fint and I are trying to have a serious conversation - or at least I am, anyway - so you can just butt out with your silly pictures.
I mean, suppose I find and post a pic of a KKK rally and claim that it represents all conservatives. Would be as silly as your pics. |
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Good analogy jyl...Democrats supporting the communist motivated "anti-war" movement would be like Republicans supporting KKK pro-war movement...The latter is demonstrably true, the former is absolutely not. |
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:rolleyes: In fact, ditto squared: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: If it relaxes your sense of history repeating itself, Fint, I bet the troops will be welcomed with open arms and flowers from us as they were said they were via Cheney's vitriol when they were initially forced into this debacle. No one will spit on them when they return. |
People spit on the military almost every day. Even my family members are spit on. The present duplicates the past...and the left...is still the same.
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I'll give you an example you're full of it: during Gulf I, I took my best friend out for a drink in "Socialist" Santa Monica. Maybe you wouldn't believe that a 1st lieutenant in Marine dress would not get enough free drinks bought for him to load up an entire squad, but this did happen, and in a community where apartment buildings have hammer and sickles painted on their walls. So I don't know where this spitting stuff comes from. I grew up near the VA hospital in Westwood. Nothing but respect befell those men when they found they had nothing to fear when interacting with the Liberals who made up almost the entire area. You've displayed conjecture before, Fint, but this is an all time high (or low) for your unfounded accusations... |
Get a clue. Once again an expert on something you know nothing about. Just because the couple of times you have been with a GI and he was treated well does not mean that it has not happened many times to folks who wore that same uniform daily for almost 30 years. That is sort of like someone who rides the bus every day trying to tell me that cops don't give tickets for speeding. I have posted about it happening before on this BBS...and, in fact, it was threatened earlier in this thread. I have never done a lot of the things you claim to have done on this thread..yet I believe you. I even believe you went out drinking with a Marine once....implausible as it seems. That does not change my experience. Not only have I been spit on, but have had tomatoes, ketchup, etc..thrown on me...ruining my uniform which really put my familiy in a financial bind whem I had to replace them on my meager salary. I have had my cars keyed, window glass broken, given the liberal finger..more times than I can count, etc...so don't start with your liberal fairy tales...I know better.
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Then I left intact the last part of your reply, where your uniform was ruined and the finger had been given to you. What I mean to outline here is maybe, because of your attitude, you were made into what they did to actors during days of Shakespeare's Globe Theater - a mockery of an actor made into a walking vegetable garden. After all, vitriol deserves all the rotten tomatoes vitriol can get. Or was it you were spat on and doused with Heinz 57 not just because of attitude problems but also because you were a bad actor in a military uniform? |
You are a funny man. You call me a liar...then wonder at my reply...And no, these were not people I had met, knew, or had even spoken to. A man in uniform knows to keep his mouth shut in public...as the anti-military folks would like nothing better than to goad him into poor judgement, then report him. Like most GIs, I only wear the uniform at work and direct travel to and from. All they knew was that I wore the uniform...or had the required sticker on my car. Others have posted here that they have received the same.
Admit it, you have never bought a drink for a Marine in your life. |
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don't blame the good people in uniform that serve and protect us. Blame the politicians.
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Its not the uniform Dude.
From someone that wore a uniform in the 70's Now spit-free for 30 years :) |
I fully understand flintstone's sentiments. I work at a major University and I can tell you that 90% of the faculty/staff are self-described "liberals", and while the vast majority would not spit on a GI, they don't like them much either. They think of the military generally as a bunch of uneducated, overly-patriotic, Rush-loving, dupes. They are almost universally UNGRATEFUL for the sacrifices made by the GIs. When the leftist elites (not every liberal) scream to "bring home the troops" it's usually not out of concern for the GIs, it's to bash the president, and to embarass the country, which to them is morally equivalent to our enemy.
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Lots of folks have briefly worn uniforms during their lives...but clearly that length of time that one does anything increases their possibility of different experiences. Also circumstances such as location, whether or not one is alone or in a group, etc are factors. I have had troops who worked for me who would not wear the uniform outside the base and changed their clothes at work every day because of how they were treated. They even lied to all their friends about what they did for a living. It is sad that one would feel they had to live that way...to serve their country. Thing had gotten better until recently. Probably due to the current shrill attitude of the anti-war crowd. Both my daughter and myself have had recent incidences....I have posted about both here at PP. |
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I have had teachers tell me that they have lowered my grade (specifically because of my uniform). I'm sure others did the same without saying a word. It is particularly difficult for ROTC students who must wear the uniform on campus and endure the throngs of protesters (most of who are not students) and the ridicule of the faculty. They cannot even defend themselves...as they have very high standards for grades and discipline/behavior. Bad as it is on campus, the current protests attacking GIs at the veteran's hospitals are worse. |
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