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bryanthompson 09-29-2005 03:17 PM

You people get all angry, but I haven't heard an argument proving him wrong. Just a bunch of baby-killers pigpiling on a republican who said publicly what their policies impact.

lendaddy 09-29-2005 03:18 PM

BTW if you guys had read the book he referenced the context would indeed make more sense to you. But, why pass up a chance to cry "racist!" (while scanning for the nearest minority to acknowledge this great act of yours to ease their plight), pathetic.:rolleyes:

Rondinone 09-29-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jared Fenton
aborting white republican honkys would cut down on ignorance as well
Whew, I'm safe. I'm just a white republican with a PhD.

Why is it that non-liberals are always called ignorant?

Elitism at it's best!

CamB 09-29-2005 03:21 PM

I think it is taken out of context - the fuller context just shows he was letting his mouth run. Stupidly, or at least ill-advisedly.

re: Abortion (which I might start by saying, I am totally against).

- what if the person getting the abortion genuinely doesn't believe the foetus is a "baby" - are they killing a baby?

- are those birth control pills which have a secondary (backup) effect of making it impossible for a fertilised egg to implant in the womb a form of abortion?

- (edit) or the Morning After Pill (/edit)

I mean, where is the line? It is dictated by conscience.

skipdup 09-29-2005 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
...
Andy demographer can tell you that the key cause of rise and fall in crime rate is the proportion of young males in the population.
...

Intersting...

Where does one find statistics showing who (race & gender) commits crimes?

- Skip

Seahawk 09-29-2005 03:21 PM

Quote:

So, some republican admits believing that killing black babies would curb the crime rate and Thompson's first thoughts are, "He does have a point, though."
So, then, do you admit abortion is killing?

Seahawk 09-29-2005 03:31 PM

BTW, Tech, perhaps your income level would improve to past levels if you spent less time on line and more effort in pursuit of the almighty dollar. This post of yours is absurd.

Joeaksa 09-29-2005 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seahawk
BTW, Tech, perhaps your income level would improve to past levels if you spent less time on line and more effort in pursuit of the almighty dollar. This post of yours is absurd.
What do you mean THIS POST? The vast majory of his bleeding liberal posts have little connection with fact or real life but he keeps sending out these smoke signals hoping that someone will rally to his cause.

Sad to watch someone self destructing like this... Especially when he is moaning about returning to his past level. If something like that happened to me I would be burning the midnight oil and pushing to make it happen, not crying on a car forum about something that he saw in a dream.

JoeA

dtw 09-29-2005 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rondinone
Whew, I'm safe. I'm just a white republican with a PhD.

Why is it that non-liberals are always called ignorant?

Elitism at it's best!

Yeap, forget my advanced degree and CPA license, I'm in a Southern red state thus Superman has declared I am a NASCAR and WWF loving redneck. Go figure.

cool_chick 09-29-2005 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rondinone
Whew, I'm safe. I'm just a white republican with a PhD.

Why is it that non-liberals are always called ignorant?

Elitism at it's best!

Well would you rather be called lazy, living off the government, refuses to get a job...commits crimes...

And my personal favorite...immoral....LOL

HardDrive 09-29-2005 04:24 PM

Whats up with the 'baby killer' crap bryan?

turbocarrera 09-29-2005 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seahawk
So, then, do you admit abortion is killing?
I sure do.

What does that have to do with those comments?

The fact that he thinks such an act would be "reprehensible" does not qualify his statement. He talks about reducing the crime rate and the first ******* thing out of his mouth is to say that killing black babies would do it.

Polish that turd all you like.

C'mon you guys - that's a sick fuking thing to say - isn't it?

techweenie 09-29-2005 04:30 PM

Not a word in defense of 'conservatism.'

Not a word of condemnation of Bennett's racism.

Just attacking the messenger.

The poverty of the argument from the 'right' speaks volumes.

Jared at Pelican Parts 09-29-2005 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rondinone
Whew, I'm safe. I'm just a white republican with a PhD.

Why is it that non-liberals are always called ignorant?

Elitism at it's best!

What makes you think im a liberal?

What makes you think a PhD equals intelligence? To me, it just means you memorized a lot of facts.

lendaddy 09-29-2005 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbocarrera
I sure do.

What does that have to do with those comments?

The fact that he thinks such an act would be "reprehensible" does not qualify his statement. He talks about ways of reducing the crime rate and the first ******* thing out of his mouth is to say that killing black babies would do it.

Polish that turd all you like.

Len, what the name of this book that he is referencing?

C'mon you guys - that's a sick fuking thing to say - isn't it?

Freakonomics

And no they were not discussing ways to reduce crime at all. They were discussing abortion and reasons for/against it. Did you even read the transcript?

He was warning the caller not to use statistical anomolies to rail against abortion. He then gives an absurd example (aborting black babies) to make his point.

But in classic form the liberal m,sses all that and only hears a conservative mention a race and they're on it like stink on a democrat.

Read this part again.

"But I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down. So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky ."

dtw 09-29-2005 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jared Fenton
To me, it just means you memorized a lot of facts.
LOL. Yes, of course it does.

lendaddy 09-29-2005 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
Not a word in defense of 'conservatism.'

Not a word of condemnation of Bennett's racism.

Just attacking the messenger.

The poverty of the argument form the 'right' speaks volumes.

See what I mean, he calls racism where none exists and pounds his chest.

dtw 09-29-2005 04:38 PM

Len, give it up. This is textbook cognitive dissonance. I thought at least Techweenie being a marketing guy would have been too smart for this, but I was wrong.

turbocarrera 09-29-2005 04:48 PM

So Len, you're saying that Bennet does not believe killing black babies would reduce the crime rate? He just made up a ficiticious, anomalous statistic to warn a caller not to use anomalous statistics to argue his position on abortion?

Strange stat to just fabricate out of thin air - on the air. No?

Joeaksa 09-29-2005 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jared Fenton
What makes you think a PhD equals intelligence? To me, it just means you memorized a lot of facts.
Jared, I usually feel that you are a pretty smart character but this statement does not help.

I do not have a PHD but do have three degrees (and alot of other licenses and certificates) and its not just memorizing anything. Its lots of hard work and by the time you get to this level you are either pretty sharp or the 1% that just got lucky.

When you get to this level you have to be sharp. For my German long range pilots license all the instruction was in English. We were told that the test would be in English. When we got there the two Americans in the class were given the written test in German with no notice.

We both passed and found out later that they did not want us to have the license because they felt that "we were not up to their standards"... Well, passing an exam for the most difficult license there is to get in my field IN A FOREIGN LANGUAGE is not memorizing my friend.

Joe A

PS I did not stay in a holiday inn that night... :)


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