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turbocarrera 09-30-2005 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
True, but for what reason?
parapraxis?

techweenie 09-30-2005 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by HardDrive
It was a poor choice of words.
It was a revealing choice of words. I figure Bennett thought only conservatives were listening.

livi 09-30-2005 12:14 PM

Well, Techweenie,

I presume you have not found any of the "slack" in this thread either ?

Wow, you guys could host your own talk show. There is smoke coming out of my screen reading it. ;)

lendaddy 09-30-2005 12:17 PM

I think us Conservatives give you guys on the left too much intellectual credit. We need to speak to you as if you were eight year olds I guess.

Mulhollanddose 09-30-2005 12:37 PM

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speedkillz 09-30-2005 01:34 PM

Well..... HELL.... lets for fun say we abort all babies not concieved from people we agree with. crime or no crime...would you be a better person??? yea it was a racist statement. if he stated that we should abort all Washington state babies/ or any other _______(fill in blank) do you think they would be upset...you bet your sweet a$$ they would...so why is ok to say that about another race???? IT'S NOT.. You can have any opinion you wish...thankfully...but that doesn't give you the right to say it.

nostatic 09-30-2005 01:40 PM

Len, do you really think this is a PC thing? As I said, I see your reasoning but prima facia the comment is either stupid or racist (or both). Would it be so bad for you (or any conservative) to admit that? I'm not above admitting when a democrat says something stupid (which is pretty much any time one of them opens their mouths).

Mulhollanddose 09-30-2005 02:18 PM

"There are white niggers. I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time …it you want to use that word. We all…we all just need to work together to make our country a better country.
"I'd just as soon quit talking about it so much."

Robert Byrd (ex-KKK Grand Kleagle--recruiter)

Hillary Rodham -- then Bill Clinton's girlfriend -- called adviser Paul Fray a "fuking Jew bastard" to his face on election night. Paul Fray confirms this.

techweenie 09-30-2005 02:20 PM

Give it up, losers.

Even the White House has apologized for this dirtbag.

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The White House on Friday criticized former Education Secretary William Bennett for remarks linking the crime rate and the abortion of black babies.

"The president believes the comments were not appropriate," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

Tim Hancock 09-30-2005 02:28 PM

Based on statistics it is true, while politically incorrect, one cannot say his statement is incorrect. The context that he said it in did not claim he advocates doing it. He was just using it to make his point. You cannot just paint him as a card carrying, cross burning member of the KKK just because he as a white man used the word black in an argument he was making.

Does anyone here really think he advocates killing black babies to stop crime? I doubt it, you are just using this instance to rip on the republican party. (just like the liberal press who are just playing one sentence from his argument and they are not explaining the context that the statement was made in)

Tim Hancock 09-30-2005 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by techweenie
Give it up, losers.

Even the White House has apologized for this dirtbag.

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The White House on Friday criticized former Education Secretary William Bennett for remarks linking the crime rate and the abortion of black babies.

"The president believes the comments were not appropriate," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

Kind of like he had to claim responsibility for Katrina to shut up the morons that believed he was responsible for every single atrocity that happened in NO.

If he had not issued this Bennet statement, it would not be long before the lefties would be claiming it is W's fault that Bennet said what he said.

Len, how right you are about the 8 year old reasoning ability!

Mulhollanddose 09-30-2005 02:49 PM

Outta Robert Byrd's own RACIST mouth (audio)

"Martin Luther King fled the scene. He took to his heels and disappeared, leaving it to others to cope with the destructive forces he had helped to unleash. And I hope that well-meaning negro leaders and individuals in the negro community in Washington will now take a new look at this man who gets other people into trouble and then takes off like a scared rabbit."

Above is what Byrd said (for those who cannot suffer the Rush Limbaugh audio leading to the Byrd audio).

speedkillz 09-30-2005 02:57 PM

Bull sh.t you can't white wash this. NO pun intended. Man some of the ways some of us use statistics...If he called your sister,mother or girl friend a whore... but said he meant women in general would that pi$$ you off. It would me. come on ..stop making excuses for the A$$. who cares what someone said to someones face... person to person...go on a public forum and say that and you would be considered an idiot dirtbag period...Better people have said less and been punished worse. The president believes the comments were not appropriate," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.
Whoooo that made Lil "W" look cool

turbocarrera 09-30-2005 02:59 PM

Mul, a few days ago you called MLK a "useful idiot" and a tool of the left - basically said he was an unwitting traitor - Byrd may well agree with you.

Mulhollanddose 09-30-2005 03:08 PM

Tony, my disagreements with Mr. King are philosophical...Byrd's were/are racist...This was 4 years after the Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (against the protest of the Democrat filibuster) that Byrd made these comments.

Mulhollanddose 09-30-2005 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by speedkillz
Bull sh.t you can't white wash this. NO pun intended. Man some of the ways some of us use statistics...If he called your sister,mother or girl friend a whore... but said he meant women in general would that pi$$ you off. It would me. come on ..stop making excuses for the A$$. who cares what someone said to someones face... person to person...go on a public forum and say that and you would be considered an idiot dirtbag period...Better people have said less and been punished worse. The president believes the comments were not appropriate," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.
Whoooo that made Lil "W" look cool

The remarks are muscular, I will grant you...But definitely not racist by any stretch of the imagination...Mr. Bennett has never been affiliated with anything racist in the past and he is an opponent of abortion...In a hypothetical world, which he offers to make a larger point, crime WOULD go down if all black babies were aborted...Statistically accurate, as uncomfortable as that truth is.

bryanthompson 09-30-2005 03:17 PM

If all white guys were aborted, there would be no more nascar drivers. if all baby girls were aborted, there wouldn't ever be another abortion.

Also disturbing and truthful. Nobody would do such things, but it's hypothetical land he's talking in.

Tim Hancock 09-30-2005 03:18 PM

He did not call my mother a whore. He did not call black mothers whores either. Your analogy does not make sense.

What should his "punishment" be? Is it OK for Jesse Jackson to reverse discriminate? Should he be punished as well? Would it be OK if Bill Cosby made that statement (he must be allowed to criticize the actions of black folks, because I heard him do it)?

I am not "whitewashing" anything, I have just had my fill of reverse discrimination and the playing of the race card.

Mulhollanddose 09-30-2005 03:21 PM

"...you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down. So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky."

speedkillz 09-30-2005 04:11 PM

If he called YOUR/MY sister,mother or girl friend a whore... but said he meant women in general would that pi$$ you off. IT WOULD ME. Thats what i meant.
"Your analogy does not make sense". "In a hypothetical world"
jeesseeee... is what I wrote insulting to you???? not meant to. !!! now you understand that it IS the context. I meant no disrespect.


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