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tabs 10-20-2005 04:11 AM

The Worst Administration Since Calgulia
 
I am really sick of Teddy K, Charles Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Billary Clinton, John Corzine, Nancy Pellosi and a host of other whining malcontent Democrats whose only purpose in life is self agrandizement.

If it weren't for these clowns and f their ridiculous political platform I would be tempted to vote Democratic in the face of the Bush administrations ineptitude.

Bushs only shining moment was when he went to NYC and said, "I hear you" The overthrow of the Taliban was a triumph...but all of that Good Will has been thrown away in a quagmire called Iraq which costs the US 1.5 Billion a week...which any fool would have known was going to become one based upon it's history. We are constantly reminded that the administration knows what it is doing based upon some secret information.. but where is that information, based upon outcome of events it sure seems like that information was wrong or didin't exist. The American people are being led down the garden path, but does the Bush Administration believe it's own fairy tales.

Ed Bighi 10-20-2005 04:34 AM

Holy cow, another person on this forum with a mind of his own instead of his party's. You must have removed your partisan chip from your head. I took mine out years ago and have seen clearly ever since. Of course, with clear vision also comes the depression from the realization that this elephant and donkey show is not much more than a waste of time and a disservice to the public. To hell with these Sociocrats and Religicans. But the damn public is so stupidly gullible anyway that sometimes I find that it barely deserves better. I think deep down they actually want it just like this. They know no better. Direct democracy would be real good right about now.

cool_chick 10-20-2005 04:38 AM

Re: The Worst Administration Since Calgulia
 
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Originally posted by tabs
I am really sick of Teddy K, Charles Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Billary Clinton, John Corzine, Nancy Pellosi and a host of other whining malcontent Democrats whose only purpose in life is self agrandizement.

If it weren't for these clowns and f their ridiculous political platform I would be tempted to vote Democratic in the face of the Bush administrations ineptitude.

Bushs only shining moment was when he went to NYC and said, "I hear you" The overthrow of the Taliban was a triumph...but all of that Good Will has been thrown away in a quagmire called Iraq which costs the US 1.5 Billion a week...which any fool would have known was going to become one based upon it's history. We are constantly reminded that the administration knows what it is doing based upon some secret information.. but where is that information, based upon outcome of events it sure seems like that information was wrong or didin't exist. The American people are being led down the garden path, but does the Bush Administration believe it's own fairy tales.


We really need to start looking at the Libertarian platform. Their views are close to conservatism, something that's no longer existant in republicans today.

slakjaw 10-20-2005 05:13 AM

How long have the Dems been out of power?

People just keep blameing them for everything. The other day, Rush was babbeling about how the Dems are pretending that Bush never happened. I think the truth is that both sides are pretending that Bush never happened.


I like what Cool Chick had to say. At least the Libertarians havent given the entire country a "no lube a$$ fuch" at least not yet.

RallyJon 10-20-2005 05:23 AM

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How long have the Dems been out of power? People just keep blameing them for everything.
As tabs pointed out, they are to blame for failing to offer an alternative. Not even a good alternative--just one that a moderate voter can choose without sobbing with frustration and/or vomiting up part of his lunch.

Joeaksa 10-20-2005 06:11 AM

Hate to say it (as a registered Republican), I agree with much of what Tabs and CC have to say.

Both parties have been leaning in a direction that many of us do not like. Its time for a change in both sides of the house but the problem is that there are others who vote who do not feel this way.

How are we going to get America to realize this?

JoeA

PS Ed, please put a paragraph or 10 in on long missives like this. I get about two sentenances in and give up on a post like this...

1967 R50/2 10-20-2005 06:34 AM

I agree. Both parties are inept. ...disgustingly inept. And both parties have only themselves to blame. Lack of talent at all levels, lack of vision at all levels, lack of cahones at ALL LEVELS.

Well I take that last point back. Bush does have cahones...but almost at the expense of everything else.

Jeff Higgins 10-20-2005 06:51 AM

Agreed; they are no more than two sides of the same tarnished coin. I can't remember the last election in which I did not feel as though I was voting for the lesser of two evils. What a hell of a way to choose leaders. Pick the one that will do the least damage. Sometimes the damage done is so great I find myself wondering how bad the other guy would have been. Not how good, mind you; not what kind of great and inspired leadership he would have offered, but rather how bad he would have screwed it up compared to the current office holder.

kach22i 10-20-2005 06:52 AM

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

Joeaksa 10-20-2005 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by kach22i
If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Boy, bet you dug really deep to pull this one out Kach! Something new that none of us have ever heard before!

Suppose that you are going to say that you are part of the solution with your continuous posts about Bush being worse than the devil himself while Clinton was a saint?

Both sides need help. I volunteer to work during election times and at other times when I am available. We all need to get involved and make the current set of idiots realize that they just aint making it. Again, the problem is that there are a lot of voters who keep putting them in office year after year.

Again, I would love to see a term limit for EVERY GOVT OFFICE holder. Two or three terms max then get a real job. This should not be a gravy train where you can lounge until you retire.

JoeA

dd74 10-20-2005 06:59 AM

Re: Re: The Worst Administration Since Calgulia
 
Quote:

Originally posted by cool_chick
We really need to start looking at the Libertarian platform. Their views are close to conservatism, something that's no longer existant in republicans today.
Many voices of wisdom in this thread.

I liked Bush first time around. But now in his second term with Iraq and he appointing unqualified friends for very important posts, Supreme Court and FEMA notwithstanding, I just can't figure out what he's doing and whose interest he represents.

I pity tried-and-true Republicans as I feel they're not getting the shaft, but being abandoned by Bush.

And despite what the press says, they're as clueless as anyone else. They criticize Bush but have yet to analyze him and what he's doing, vis-a-vis give insight.

I mean honestly: what is his agenda?

Libertarian does seem like the only alternative at this point...

Moses 10-20-2005 07:00 AM

Bush has betrayed even the most fundamental tenets of conservatism. His spending record is obscene. And the mindless debacle in Iraq is depressing.

You have two choices in this country, vote democratic and watch the government get handed over to special interest groups or vote republican and have the Christian evangelicals run things. Both parties will spend your money at a staggering and wasteful pace. Nice choices, huh?

Rodeo 10-20-2005 07:18 AM

I'm so happy to read this, I could cry ...

Ok, let's all hug it out!

techweenie 10-20-2005 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by Moses
You have two choices in this country, vote democratic and watch the government get handed over to special interest groups or vote republican and have the Christian evangelicals run things. Both parties will spend your money at a staggering and wasteful pace. Nice choices, huh?
I'd say the government today is very much in the hands of special interest groups -- like oil companies, drug companies, etc.

With the Democrats, it'd just be different special interests.

The parallels go further: the Repubs have the Rapture Righties and the Dems have labor unions.

So pick your poison. It's PAC money that's created two parties beholden to powerful lobbies. That and 'soft' money that's laundered into RNC and DNC coffers.

Can an unfunded third party ever get significant votes? No. The rules prevent it. So your only viable option is to work from within the party of your choice.

kach22i 10-20-2005 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
We all need to get involved and make the current set of idiots realize that they just aint making it.
Well, there is at least one kernel of corn in that pile of crap you wrote.

Bon App'etit

kach22i 10-20-2005 07:22 AM

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Originally posted by techweenie
So your only viable option is to work from within the party of your choice.
Well said.

Joeaksa 10-20-2005 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
I'd say the government today is very much in the hands of special interest groups -- like oil companies, drug companies, etc.

With the Democrats, it'd just be different special interests.

The parallels go further: the Repubs have the Rapture Righties and the Dems have labor unions.

So pick your poison. It's PAC money that's created two parties beholden to powerful lobbies. That and 'soft' money that's laundered into RNC and DNC coffers.

Can an unfunded third party ever get significant votes? No. The rules prevent it. So your only viable option is to work from within the party of your choice.

Tech, this worries me as I agree with everything you say.

That said, funding is a problem so lets fund the party of our choice. Right now the Libertarian party fits the bill for me more than the two other choices. We either fund them and go that route or by the time masses defect to the third choice the Dem's and Repub's will realize whats happening and either change or die.

JoeA

PS Katch, at least part of it made sense, unlike yours. It did taste excellent by the way. Work to make things better and post solutions or ideas.

nostatic 10-20-2005 07:58 AM

are we outlyers though? Does "the common man" feel the same way? More importantly, if they do will they do *anything* about it?

arcsine 10-20-2005 08:25 AM

I think the tough thing in mobilizing the common man will be breaking the spell of the "two-party" brainwash. To most it would appear that while living in a society with representative government, you have to be affiliated with one of two parties to be taken seriously. A choice of two will ultimately lead to voting against a candidate or said previously "the lesser of two evils". As neither major party seems to be offering effective leadership the option left is to look elsewhwere.

Burnin' oil 10-20-2005 08:25 AM

I don't want to be cynical, but . . .


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