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Nathans_Dad 11-01-2005 10:23 AM

Where do you lie on the Political Spectrum?
 
I thought it would be interested to see where people think they lie on the political spectrum. Proposed scale is:

1--------2--------3-------4-------5-------6-------7-------8-------9-------10

Far Left Far Right

Far Left=Michael Moorer, Janeine Garofelo (or however you spell that), etc.

Far Right=Pat Robertson, etc.


I'll start. I think I am about a 7, sometimes an 8.


Hopefully the poll works.

Nathans_Dad 11-01-2005 10:25 AM

Dang it. I wanted 10 options on the poll but it only gave me the 3 that I typed in. Can a mod add a couple more in between?

Jamie79SC 11-01-2005 10:51 AM

Nathan's dad,

We all lie politically now and then.

Mulhollanddose 11-01-2005 10:54 AM

That is "Maul-ish" to you.

lendaddy 11-01-2005 11:08 AM

I'm Mollish:)
http://www.goatley.com/hunter/autos/richard-moll.jpg

Shaun @ Tru6 11-01-2005 12:06 PM

Please let me know where you think I fit in:

Fiscally conservative, the government should never spend more than it takes in, no matter what. It's just bad business and is in itself a terrible form of Entitlement.

Socially liberal, education is the silver bullet

Overhaul how Congress works and bills are voted on. Any congressman voting must have read the entire bill. From a technology perspective, there must be a solution. Our political leaders must be held accountable for their voting. Slow the process down, no last minute insertions, etc.

I like guns, you should be able to have whatever you want, just be prepared for a thorough background check.

I like the death penalty (for murder and rape)

Would rather see a culture of adoption than one of abortion,

Government should stay out of our personal lives for anyone above the poverty level, people should be trusted with their own personal lives and lifestyles. It is the ultra-rare occasion where a lifestyle has a negative impact on society in general.

I am completely against the welfare system, mainly because it propagates cycles (poverty, need, expectation, abuse) rather than breaks them. The end game is that when you don't work for something, when it's just given to you, you'll never appreciate it, you'll never understand achievement, you'll never learn anything and be able to take those skills to modify them to tackle new challenges. Entitlement programs are poorly designed to make you FEEL like you are one thing, but don't give you the tools to actually BE that thing.

Smaller, high-tech military. Any action we go into should have at least 50% world support through diplomacy, and I'm not talking about Costa Rica on our side.

A future competitive U.S.A is built on:
1. Top-tier education system where students are taught to think creatively and solve problems.

2. A free-of-charge national ultra-high speed broadband network. Everyone should have access to the net to equalize class. Businesses should be passing data at the rate common in Japan, China, that is 60 times our current standard.

3. True transportation energy independence. We need $billions poured into private R&D over the next 5 years to get transportation off the oil addiction. I see this as a "Kennedy walk on the moon" concept.

Burnin' oil 11-01-2005 12:14 PM

Re: Where do you lie on the Political Spectrum?
 
On my big, fat, grain-fed ass. . .

legion 11-01-2005 12:19 PM

I think a "Moore"-ish or "Red UFO"-ish option should be added to the left of Far Left.

tabs 11-01-2005 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
I'm Mollish:)
http://www.goatley.com/hunter/autos/richard-moll.jpg

Hey I've met him....got to talk to him after an Art auction...actually he's one of the guys that I got to meet/see on the Art auction circuit in LA....

Hugh R 11-01-2005 01:26 PM

About a 6, I think the Republican party has abandoned the moderates and is being driven by the religous zealot right. Reasonably close to
Shaun 84 Targa. I need gubmit out of my wallet, out of my body, out of my bedroom and doing what it was meant to do. Have an effective military to keep of safe, and to do things that individuals can't do like build roads and sewer systems.

M.D. Holloway 11-01-2005 01:41 PM

Shaun - Your talking an 8 axis onthogonal array! The scale needs to go into the another dimension to gage your affiliation.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-01-2005 03:00 PM

On economic issues = more conservative. I believe in smaller government, less regulation and the power of the free market (and personal / business accountability).

On social issues = more liberal / libertarian. IMO if it ain't in the Constitution, government has no business regulating it. Politicians need more direct accountability to the public - directly. Keep government, busibodies, religion, politics and opposing points of view out of my life except where they must be in order to effect a civilized society. I do likewise for others and respect their positions. End of story. I find the "hard right" types to be control freaks / nazis and the "hard left" types to be mamby-pamby pussies. I'm really neither, but more "hands off" with regards to government intrusion into peoples' lives.

Tim Hancock 11-01-2005 03:13 PM

If Shaun did not hate Bush and his Iraq policy, he would be "pretty right".

red-beard 11-01-2005 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
Shaun - Your talking an 8 axis onthogonal array! The scale needs to go into the another dimension to gage your affiliation.
We can use Taguchi...we can make him better than he was...

VINMAN 11-01-2005 04:47 PM

Fiscally, conservative, i want small govt, less taxation
Socially conservative, I dont believe in welfare or a free ride, go out and work and support yourself and your family. I have my own bills to pay! My tax money should be spent on education, defense and the basic needs of running the govt. Not on the National Endowment for the Arts. I'm pro gun and pro death penalty, and anti crime. I'm not very right-wing as far as religion goes, and I'm pro choice. It's a persons body let them do what they want with it.
As far as political correctness goes, you cant shove it. Offend all!!
I believe in free speech and the word GOD. The Pledge of alliegance should be recited in school. Teach our children the facts, not what some bleeding heart left wing pacifist thinks should be taught.
Yes, we should have team mascots named after American Indians!!

While I dont agree with everything our President has done, I support him and our troops.

Puts me at about an 8.5??

RoninLB 11-01-2005 07:52 PM

The world consists of economics and war.

Politics is Politics.

HardDrive 11-01-2005 08:09 PM

I will vote Republican again when they start acting like Republicans.

Mulhollanddose 11-01-2005 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardDrive
I will vote Republican again when they start acting like Republicans.
Immigration:

"It just didn't work," Schwarzenegger said. "It backfired big-time. It sent the wrong message: You come here illegally, and then we go and give you amnesty. So then, the next million come and they say, 'Hey, we get amnesty, this is really terrific.'"

****************

Supreme Court:

And Lustberg predicts Alito will be confirmed. "He's going to wow the Judiciary Committee. He's going to be every bit as impressive as John Roberts in his own soft-spoken way."

****************

Tax Cuts, the economy (WallStreetJournal):

We now know something that blows stronger even than Hurricane Katrina: the amazing American economy. Third quarter GDP rose by 3.8%, the Commerce Department reported Friday, notwithstanding Katrina and Rita and all of the corollary damage they wrought...

The third-quarter result was even better if you strip out a reduction in private inventories, which knocked about half a percentage point off GDP growth. Figure in the blow from Katrina, and growth would have been in the neighborhood of 5%. Not bad for an economy that much of our financial media keep saying is mediocre, or subpar, or overburdened with debt, or can't compete with the Chinese, or all the other predictions of doom you've heard in recent years. Keep predicting a recession long enough, and eventually you can call yourself a seer.


Tax reform:

Tax Reform

jorian 11-01-2005 10:00 PM

"Far Left=Michael Moorer, Janeine Garofelo" - I'm guessing your not a fan.

Interesting you think Michael Moore & Janine Garofalo represent the far left.

WolfeMacleod 11-02-2005 12:27 AM

As Shaun, I'm also not sure where I'd fit in.

I agree with what he said on government spending.

Guns: I dislike them. However, I feel that it should be mandatory that every person carry a gun at all times. Why? What idiot is going to rob a bank or shoot someone if everyone nearby is packing?

Abortion? I'd never do it, but it's needed. Why? Population.
Death penalty? Yes. Under control of victim's families.

Education? Not nearly enough. Failing miserably.
Medical research? Not enough, and too much at the same time. Stop curing disease, but make quality of life better. Population control.
Stem cell research? Yes, with some limits.
Transportation? Not enough. Failingmiserably.
Taxes? Too much...and not enough at the same time.
Energy? Too expensive.

Welfare? Too much. Train them, don't pay them.

Religious or personal beliefs should not be considered when passing laws.

Where's that put me?


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