Thank you! The people who don't know are the ones with all the "what ifs". Educate yourselves with a firearms class and then you will have a better understanding. BTW the lowlife who breaks into my house will have his abdomen full of Black Talons, its all I carry.http://members.cox.net/onequicksupra/DSC00500.JPG

Have you tried any Cor-Bon DPX? All copper bullet (lead-free, but not for "environmental" reasons).

I prefer Cor-Bon for the powder blend too. Try it in low-light conditions compared with other brands; I doubt you'll find anything better for controlled muzzle flash.

Love my HP. Be sure to check out this site;

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/

I can pick up my 226R on Thursday....tick...tock....tick....tock.....

"Waiting period!?!?!? But I'm angry now!" -Homer Simpson

I have the Sufefire light to light up the area so muzzle flash is not really a big concern and the Talons arent too bad. The talons do offer maximum damage to whatever it hits especially since they are teflon coated.

Picked up the Kimber Desert Warrior on Sunday from a local FFL...what a fine, accurate weapon.
The guy we bought the pistol from is the head of the local chapter of the International defensive Pistol Association (IDPA).
I have no affiliation with them, but was very impressed with their approach to scenario-based training. I have included a link below.
The best analogy to what IDPA teaches is this: Firearms training at a target range is like learning how to fly, you become familiar with your weapon and the basics of shooting, just like learning the fundamentals of flight.
What I saw at the local IDPA range reminded me of the various weapons flight training schools I've been to over the years: proficentcy with the basics of your weapon (aircraft) is assumed, now they are teaching you how best to fight with the weapon. The scenarios and targets were terrific, including moving and stationary targets, covered and uncovered shooting stances, as well an urban/home setting in a real structure.
Because the range facility was excellent, and since the folks involved were very professional and nice (no Rambo types anywhere to be found), I plan on joing for a year ($35.00) and shooting with both my old Hi-power and the new Kimber. Should be fun.
Again, I have no affiliation, just thought I'd share what I saw.

http://www.idpa.com/

Masaad Ayoob (spelling?) mentions in his class, and I believe in his book, that it is best to avoid hand loads for defensive ammunition. Maybe this "mean" and "nice" ammo discussion got started along those lines. It's just another attempt from the anti-gun crowd to divide and conquer. Totally meaningless when your life is a stake.

Ayoob can site cases, I believe civil "wrongfull death" cases where the dead perp's family sues, where hand loads became an issue. It is apparently too easy to paint a picture of some deranged gun nut sitting in a dark basement, cooking up some "special" loads and hoping to find some one to try them out on.

That said, I do find myself out and about, or even at home, armed with a sidearm stoked with handloads. I rarely have anything else around. I should probably just keep some "store bought" ammo for my defensive guns. Or better yet, designate just one or two for that duty. Part of the problem is I'm as likely to have a Peacemaker as a 1911 handy, and would be comfortable using either.

All of my handloads incorporate either Keith or LBT style plain lead bullets. I'm always interested to hear about all the new wiz-bang Black Talons, Hydra-Shoks, etc. I've shot deer and coyotes with a fair variety of them and have never been impressed. None of them have ever killed any better, and most far worse, than plain old cast bullets. This is on animals about the same size as and smaller than people. I think the marketing guys are at it again, and unfortunately, folks like Sarah Brady are using their own hype against us. "Good" or "bad" bullets; please. Gimme a break.

I've shot the last two months at my club's IDPA matches, and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. I've learned more through these matches about handling a firearm than I have in 15+ years of target shooting.

Bigger is ALWAYS better. I have a 4 GA that can be loaded with 1/4 POUND of 45 cal lead balls, now thats buck shot. Black powder is also useful for smoke screen.
http://www.nmlra.org/nmlrapage.html for good bp info.

Thats my back up gun.

Primary is 16 GA Pump. 10 GA is best, 12 GA good and 16 GA works fine. I just happen to already own the 16 GA.

I have assorted hand guns and rifles, but shotgun is THE best choice for any true home defense.

Over 50 years shooting things, mostly tin cans and clay pigons. One time master marksman.

Agree and a .45 or shotgun is the best call for self defence. Get a quick open gun safe so that if anyone breaks in they cannot get it. Assume that you have an alarm?

JoeA

Home defense???? Shotgun, shotgun, shotgun. Carry gun?? Anything that starts with a 4. Although I carry a .380 with hollow points. If I could I would just carry a sawn off 12 ga.!

zomg! LMFAO.

All 'teflon' does on a bullet is reduces the friction in the barrel. THAT'S IT.