"Name That Car" game

[Yellowbird RS]

yes 1973 Iso Grifo

[Yellowbird RS]

no one knows what this is?

[cashflyer]

I knew that would be easy.


Iso Grifo is correct. The photo I have is captioned "1969", which was the first year the Chevrolet 427 was used by Iso. Though admittedly, my photo looks exactly like the 73 you posted.

Does anyone know if they retained the same body from 69 to 73?

Not sure if Bertone had any part of the car. The original design was penned by Bizzarrini.

The rare Iso Grifo was first shown at the 1963 Turin show. Designed by Bizzarini at Bertone (who also styled the legendary Ferrari GTO) the Grifo began full production in 1964. To challenge the likes of the Daytona and Muira, the Grifo benefited from a Chevrolet 427 engine from 1969, the same as fitted to the brutal AC Cobra. This gave the Grifo 170mph performance, making it one of the fastest cars of its time.

Ironically it was this huge engine that contributed to the Grifo's downfall. The early 70's fuel crisis meant that gas guzzlers like this were no longer practical so the Grifo, and Iso with it, folded in 1974.

ISO was also the original company to offer the Isetta, which was then licensed to other makers and made famous by BMW and Steve Urkel.

[tcar]

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The rare Iso Grifo was first shown at the 1963 Turin show. Designed by Bizzarini at Bertone (who also styled the legendary Ferrari GTO) the Grifo began full production in 1964. To challenge the likes of the Daytona and Muira, the Grifo benefited from a Chevrolet 427 engine from 1969, the same as fitted to the brutal AC Cobra. This gave the Grifo 170mph performance, making it one of the fastest cars of its time.

Ironically it was this huge engine that contributed to the Grifo's downfall. The early 70's fuel crisis meant that gas guzzlers like this were no longer practical so the Grifo, and Iso with it, folded in 1974.
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Well, they're dead wrong about the Chevy engine in the Cobra. Maybe ther're wrong about Bizzarrini...

[cashflyer]

Originally posted by tcar
....Well, they're dead wrong about the Chevy engine in the Cobra. Maybe ther're wrong about Bizzarrini...

They ARE wrong about the Cobra. But since Chevy and Ford both made 427cid engines, the writer may have made an honest mistake.


Here is what I have found in the last hour of reading:

The original Grifo was penned by Bizzarrini, and was a joint endeavor with Iso Italy, SpA, as the Grifo A3/C. After 18 months, they split ways. Bizzarrini kept the rights to build the car as the A3/C, while Iso kept the rights to the Grifo name. Iso Rivolta applied the name to the similar, but Bertone designed A3/L.

The car was available with a 327 SBC engine until 69. Available as an option in 68, the Corvette 427 became standard in 69 and lasted until 72. In 73 and 74, the car came with a Ford 351 Cleveland. Because of in-house tuning and modifications, engine sizes are found listed in various resources as 5.3L 5.4L 5.7L 7.0L ... etc.

The company closed in 1974.

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Engine and Interior pics
Bizzarrini A3/C info, and mention of the Iso connection

[tcar]

Yeah, redcar by gravelpile car? Can't figure it out.

[tchanson]

A new one:





Tim

[Howard Agency]

Muntz!

[tchanson]

Originally posted by Howard Agency
Muntz!

Geez...kinda slow, Howard. That was almost five minutes.

The next photo is yours.

Tim

[Howard Agency]

OK, here ya go.

[cashflyer]

Easy... for me, anyway.
Zagato bodied Fiat Ottu Vu.

Great site about Otto Vus

[Howard Agency]

You got it. 54. Pretty car.

Your turn, Cash

[cashflyer]

In October, I posted an Otto Vu on the Random Pics thread. (Page 192)
To me, that was the most elegant Fiat ever built.

Anyway, this one should be easy. Definately not exotic, this is much more of an "every joe" car.
Hints:
It looks like something that it's not.
It was a production vehicle, not a concept, but it was short lived.
The tail-lights are uniquely placed.



We also need to guess Tim's car post, and I still want to know what that red concept car was.

[Howard Agency]

Henry J. And what is that concept car?

[dafischer]

I'd have to say that's an Allstate, sold by Sears, not a Henry J.

[tchanson]

Originally posted by dafischer
I'd have to say that's an Allstate, sold by Sears, not a Henry J.

I think Dave's right. Weren't they basically the same car but with different trim?

Allstate:



Versus the joy inducing Henry J:



I think they shared tail light placement in that early versions of both had the small round lamps, and later versions of each had the higher tailfin mounted lights.

Howard already answered my post (1954 Muntz Jet) above.

In any case, I'm gonna go back and look at that gorgeous Otto Vu and see if it helps block out the images of these goofy Kaisers...

[cashflyer]

I think Dave's right. Weren't they basically the same car but with different trim?
....
I think they shared tail light placement in that early versions of both had the small round lamps, and later versions of each had the higher tailfin mounted lights.

I should have demanded the year be correct! I was hoping the tail lamp placement would throw everyone off, but Dave is correct. It is an early 1952 Allstate. This car with the inboard tail lamps was only available for a few months; in mid 52 they moved the lamps to the top of the fins.

from the Sears Archives
In 1952, Sears introduced the Allstate automobile. Built by the Kaiser-Frazer Corporation, the Allstate automobile came in two models: The Standard ($1,395) and the Delux ($1,796) models came with a choice of optional four- or six-cylinder engines and a transmission overdrive. All automobiles came with a 90-day guarantee. As popular as the insurance and accessories were, however, few people wanted to buy an entire car with the Allstate name. Disappointing sales caused the Allstate automobile to disappear from Sears stores after 1953

Howard already answered my post (1954 Muntz Jet) above.

Oh... I see that now. I thought he was calling you some bad name when he said, "Muntz!"

[Yellowbird RS]

Originally posted by Howard Agency
OK, here ya go.

love this car!

next

[cashflyer]

Yellowbird... You can't say NEXT!!!
You never told us what the red car was!

[SLO-BOB]

Originally posted by Yellowbird RS
no one knows what this is?

Can we narrow this down?

My guess is early 90s American.