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andrew15 11-11-2005 05:51 PM

Not French Canadian (I'm in the West actually)
Not 15 (wish I was again)
Just a guy who thinks the joke is old and in particularily bad taste on Rememberance / Veterans Day.

AM

Edit for crappy spelling

Joe Bob 11-11-2005 05:52 PM

Sorry, eh....hug a vet.

cowtown 11-11-2005 06:13 PM

On days I don't want to be offended, I don't log on to PPOT. ;)

andrew15 11-11-2005 06:42 PM

Don't get me wrong - I like to be offended or be offensive a good percentage of my day!

I still stand by the thought that anyone who stands in uniform for his country deserves respect - no matter what the nationality.

Trust me - the Canadians helped the French as well - we just don't hold it over their heads like you guys ;)

AM

fintstone 11-11-2005 07:43 PM

Ther difference is...the French have done their best to hamper the US and the US military ever since. Apparently the Canadian military is not exactly on the French radar.

Christien 11-11-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/051109/allie.gif
Am I the only one who noticed the wonderful, yet most likely unintended, irony in this?

andrew15 11-11-2005 08:02 PM

We're not on the radar because we adopted that crazy new camo back in '98!

AM

Christien 11-11-2005 08:02 PM

Oh yeah, and I have to agree somewhat with Andrew. The joke's old, and war jokes are in particularly bad taste today.

And what's with the whole issue of French people smelling bad? I spent 2 weeks in France this summer, and didn't notice any particular stench worse than anywhere around here. Man, have you ever been to Buffalo? :)

fintstone 11-11-2005 08:10 PM

Funny I never see you guys posting to defend the US or our military which are attacked regularly here.

I guess the French considered the US friendship of little value when siding against the US with Libya in the 80's and Saddam more recently. Apparently the blood money they received under the "oil for food" program was worth more than US and Iraqi lives to them.

andrew15 11-11-2005 08:25 PM

Umm - Were US companies not implicated in the 'oil for food' program as well? And yes, I'm sure there are a few Cdn firms were as well. With more than 2,000 companies abusing the program, there is more than enough blame to go around!

As far as arms dealing, I'm sure there are more 'most favoured trading parter' Chinese AK's than any French munitions out there.

With the US, Russia, China, UK and France being the major suppliers of arms worldwide, you've got to expect them to face off against each other in almost any conflict.

In terms of US troops, like I said before, you've got to respect someone who wears the uniform for their country - regardless of nationality (or in this case politics). Very rarely do I see US troops themselves 'attacked' here - more often it's the case for war itself that's attacked.

Yes, it's possible to respect the troops and not the reason for the participation in a conflict.

AM

fintstone 11-11-2005 08:35 PM

From a caller to the Neal Boortz show:

AP and UPI reported today that the French government announced that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender". The raise was precipitated by a recent fire which destroyed France's white flag factory, thereby disabling its military.

Joe Bob 11-11-2005 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Christien
Am I the only one who noticed the wonderful, yet most likely unintended, irony in this?
Consider who posted it.

ChrisBennet 11-11-2005 08:50 PM

I'm probably going to regret posting anything political in OT but...
Do the French ever point out that the the US wouldn't even be a country if they hadn't come to our aid during the Revolutionary War?
-Chris

andrew15 11-11-2005 09:03 PM

Fintstone-

The French military isn't really all that bad.

Sure, they surrendered quickly in WW2, but then went on to form a highly organised, effective resistance effort that pestered and poked at the Germans until the end of the war.

Not that I like it, but it seems like the same situation in Iraq - Quick capitulation, followed by a lengthy period of poking, prodding and general instability. Maybe you hate the French because the Iraqi insurgents are taking a page from a 60yr old playbook and still working your superior stength forces?

Is that offensive enough to hang out on OT? ;)

AM

fintstone 11-11-2005 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisBennet
I'm probably going to regret posting anything political in OT but...
Do the French ever point out that the the US wouldn't even be a country if they hadn't come to our aid during the Revolutionary War?
-Chris

Big deal! The Soviet/Chinese were on our side when they were getting their respective rears nailed by Germany/Japan. That did not keep them from being bastards during the Cold War. As far as France in our own Revolutionary War....we were only the enemy of their enemy (England).

fintstone 11-11-2005 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrew15
Fintstone-

The French military isn't really all that bad.

Sure, they surrendered quickly in WW2, but then went on to form a highly organised, effective resistance effort that pestered and poked at the Germans until the end of the war.

Not that I like it, but it seems like the same situation in Iraq - Quick capitulation, followed by a lengthy period of poking, prodding and general instability. Maybe you hate the French because the Iraqi insurgents are taking a page from a 60yr old playbook and still working your superior stength forces?

Is that offensive enough to hang out on OT? ;)

AM

I imagine that you have just slammed the French far worse than I by comparing the heroic French Underground (not the military) to terrorists that intentionally murder their own women and children. I see no similarity. Too bad the current spineless French did not learn anything from that very small segment of their population in WW2.

The French have made no secret of the animosity toward the US for the last 30 years or more. They are only reaping what they have sown.

As far as the "oil for food" scandal, the French let it effect their vote in the UN Security Council. That makes it far worse than random companies profiting.

yellowline 11-11-2005 09:18 PM

The French helped out of necessity, only to weaken England and strengthen their own weakening New World empire. Louis XVI wouldn't support revolution, especially considering the fragile state of pre-Revolution France.

Napoleon sold Louisiana to us because he was cash-strapped. And so forth... The French's record of alliance with us pales in comparison to that of Britain post-War of 1812.

Getting technical, we didn't have to fight Germany, we only declared on Japan for their attack on Pearl Harbor.

fintstone 11-11-2005 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yellowline
...
Getting technical, we didn't have to fight Germany, we only declared on Japan for their attack on Pearl Harbor.

Sure we did...the whining (in French) was deafening....and so many white flags were made that the world's supply of cotton was in jeopardy.


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