I know this will probably be denied by the liberals on the board, but I honestly think it is because conservatives are more polite in general. Conservatives tend to come from the middle of the country or down south where we still have emphasis on southern manners and traditions. Liberals tend to congregate in the coasts where life is much faster and people have a bit less respect for each other. I work with some folks from up north and they tend to be very direct and somewhat loud compared to my southern friends. Doesn't mean they're mean, just different customs. So maybe liberals see shouting someone down as a viable means of discourse whereas conservatives tend to try and let someone speak their piece and then respond.

Flame suit on...

Hitler couldn't have said it better when he was speaking about the Jews... Great justification there Cool....what ever happened to Civility...instead of Brown Shirt tactics...America is degenerating into 2 ideological camps and neither one is listening to the other anymore.

Rick, I've lived in CT, MN, TX, western MA, Boston, Chicago, NYC and visited SF on business enough that I feel qualified to say I've lived there.

Some observations:
CT: gentle, honest-day's-work democrats, conservative fiscally, socially liberal, polite with grace

MN: bend over backwards nice, conservative values, hard-day's-work, easygoing overall, very polite

TX: rough and tumble, macho, but polite. work hard, play hard rowdy

western MA: very liberal, save the world, spend freely doing so, polite but in your face if you aren't one of them.

Boston: mean-spirited, walk fast, talk fast, get the job done, not-in-my-backyard liberalism, hard day's work, solid liberal family values, very sophisticated

Chicago: see MN, add a touch of sophistication.

NYC: for me the ultimate. Take all of the best from above, mix and serve.

SF: work hard play hard, enjoy life, socially very liberal, progressive, looking for the next way to improve the world around them. wonders why the world doesn't see it the way they do, really don't care.

I'm going to need your flame suit I think. Just a few generalizations. :) Tried to be honest.

Well look what she is chewing on, it would constipate even the strongest stomach.

what university and what is your work? I'm afraid as student, faculty, and staff at a number of colleges and universities that just isn't what I've seen. While there might be a perception of left-leaning, it isn't as overwhelming as the media would lead you to believe. And in fact I see plenty of conversative viewpoints and speakers getting "airtime" on campus.

Hitler?

WTF does Hitler have to do with Coulter getting exactly what she brings on?

Impossible? LOL. Coulter is NOT a victim. She brings it on herself. I do realize that accountability is something that's lost on conservatives of your nature, however.

And regarding your last paragraph, apparently you're mistaken AGAIN.

LOL

Man, is all that you have to offer is ad hominum? You do realize when people have nothing but ad hominum, it's because they can't intelligently counter.

So then you agree hecklers should not be silenced?

We have a person who says stuff like this:

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Ann Coulter on Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

She was fired for making this comment:

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."--- Ann Coulter (MSNBC)

Liberal soccer moms are precisely as likely to receive anthrax in the mail
as to develop a capacity for linear thinking.

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.

Whenever a liberal begins a statement with 'I don't know which is more frightening,' you know the answer is going to be pretty clear.



And she's not supposed to have consequences of her statements? Let me ask you this, what if this was Michael Moore? What would you guys be saying? Me, I wouldn't change my opinion. Would you? Or would you be cheering those who stood up to a slanderous person who slanders complete strangers?



Edit: and thank you, it's true. :)

Perhaps it's happened before to one of them. Perhaps this is the first time this happened to a radical extremist righty.....

If you honestly believe all "conservatives" are "one way" and all "liberals" are "another way" then, I'm very sorry for you. You cannot possibly believe that to be true......

I wasn't "setting up a strawman..." That's what you're implying, no? If not, then please, what exactly are you saying?

I don't know if I would say that either...I can't say either way whether "one side" disrupts the "other side" speeches lots more than the "other side" does to the "one side" or not. I have absolutely no data to substantiate that claim either way. To study that accurately, one would have to analyze across the country..there are conservative areas and liberal areas. Would a conservative in a liberal area be heckled, and alternatively, would a liberal in a conservative area be heckled?

I remember plenty of heckling for Kerry (none for Bush though......but that's because they screened who attended and wouldn't let anyone who wasn't a registered Republican attend....)

So in sum, unless you can prove that statement, it's not an accurate statement...it's just a "feeling" you have....

And, just curious, what "liberals" are you referring to in your post?

Whaaaaaa?

http://wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/98/36/01_2.html

Small groups in the crowd constantly heckled Moore during his speech, and he took it lightheartedly at first, using it as an opportunity to sarcastically respond to their political views, until it became so disruptive he told them directly to stop.

Okay, that is one example, must happen plenty though

Clearly that was not what he was saying, hopefully you are cute

Have to agree. It is hard to find one post lately where they actually have a lucid thought....although the brighter ones seem to be staying away (don't want to be associated with the gross ignorance). It makes even responding a waste of time. For example, equating a random heckler or a protester with well planned groups who actually drown out the speech of another is just silly....much less excusing actual assault against speakers. Based on the big talk about freedom of speech that one usually hears from liberals...you would think that they would be even more aghast about such tactics than conservatives...but I guess it is really just talk. As usual, with the libs...the end justifies the means.

Don't U Get It
 

Hitler used the same self JUSTIFICATION about violating the CIVIL RIGHTS of the Jews in Germany..."The jews are getting exactly what they bring on" Nothing new under the sun my little Nazi friend.... Simply Goon Squad Tactics...

Re: Don't U Get It
 

Yes, the same justification it appears you're using to quelch the hecklers (as Hitler would've done, and you condone). I see now.

Very nazi-like of you, I agree.

Capitalism, free market, free speech are foreign concepts to you huh...as heckling is proof of all of this!

Re: Re: Don't U Get It
 

JAAA....Maybe you and I can go Goose Stepping down the Strip when U come in March....Liebschen...LOL

Re: Re: Re: Don't U Get It
 

LOL

Me, I love freedom! Good and bad side of it (this is the negative side of it...but it's a beautiful thing nonetheless)!

Why don't you get busy and make some gulags for those who voice dissent. Don't forget to include those who heckled Moore's speech too....

Weren't you listening....Liebschen!

Actually, it's been like that for the history of the country.....

You should take a look at past eras...people even protested WWI....

Christmas was banned for 22 years in the 1800s.


Nothing's changed....except the TV throws it in your face now...makes you think the world is ending, puts fear of the "boogie man" into Americans.....

Get cracking on that gulag bud.....

I hesitate to introduce reason to such a passionate tilt, but here goes;

Our constitution does not allow government to suppress political free speech, but private citizens may heckle and argue at their pleasure. The problem is that a university, if it receives any federal funds, is an agent of government and must not encourage or allow suppression of free speech. The university has a constitutional burden to treat all invited speakers in the same way. In other words, if the university allows hecklers to disrupt a presentation by Anne Coulter, they would not be allowed to remove hecklers from a similar speech by Michael Moore.

The sad thing is that a university is supposed to be a bastion for the open exchange of ideas. The left claims they are attempting to silence "hate speech", but they remained silent when Malcolm X openly called for racially directed violence. I have no problem with Malcolm X types speaking at universities, but surely our republic can withstand the divisive forces of Anne Coulter. Are the students really that afraid of ideas?

Again, I do not believe that any rational persons definition of free speech includes the suppression of anothers free speech.

Ahhh U finaly made a good point...one that I frequently use...looking back in history.

I however will say that we are at one of those times when Political and Social differences are paticularily divisive. The direction that the nation will choose is up in the air...50% to 50%..the last time this happened with such venom was the CW.

And to silence this "Hate Speech" I will shout you down, I will stomp on you.......all goon squad tactics ......that Hitler used in the 1930s.

Look moses

when people say such stuff like this:


"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Ann Coulter on Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

She was fired for making this comment:

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."--- Ann Coulter (MSNBC)

Liberal soccer moms are precisely as likely to receive anthrax in the mail as to develop a capacity for linear thinking.

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.

Whenever a liberal begins a statement with 'I don't know which is more frightening,' you know the answer is going to be pretty clear.



don't be shocked when people react!



And what is this "left claiming to prevent hate speech" comment coming from with regard to this topic? Proof and links that this is what's happening here with Coulter?

And Malcolm was what, 40 years ago now.......what the HELL does this have to do with Coulter and Moore being heckled?

Absolutely, was used to stomp down those who dissented (heckled). Good point!

Liebschen you turn it 180*....it is the hecklers who are using Goon Squad Tactics by shouting down the speaker. What about Civility..why heckle and shout down let Anne prove herself to be a fool if that is what she is?

Do you have a link that Hitler planted people who did that to speakers? Please provide...... thank you.

Because from what I've read, Hitler wouldn't allow dissent...it would be the hecklers who were destroyed if it was a speaker who promoted his goal, and dissenting speakers weren't even allowed to speak.

And I think this is a reaction to an action...just like Moore. I'm assuming you feel the same way about Moore's heckling experience....please state clearly.

Appears some people don't like the reactions actions bring on....

Whining about it isn't going to change it.....negativity begats negativity...that's just how it is.

Ihave several books for U to read Liebschen....."The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shier and "Adolf Hitler" by John Toland.....They did far worse than shout down....they went in and Stomped..LOL

Exactly. This is not even remotely comparable to Hitler. It's OPPOSITE of Hitler...it's freedom in action. You do that all the time........it's rather comical actually.

No it's the same mind set...The self justification of WHY you are doing it....Ohh the jews brought it on themselves.....Ann brought it on herself....to quote youu Liebschen...

It's also the same lack of respect for Civil Rights....I not going to let you speak, because it is "Hate Speech" So I am going to Shout you down...and that tactic is a Goon squad tactic.

Or I could say ....I'm not going to let you speak because you are a jew so I am going to shout you down...

You honestly compare someone getting booed to the Jews in Hitler's time?

You're a sick man.

They shouldn't have heckled Moore like that......c'mon...say it Tabbie....SAY IT.....

They should not heckle Moore because:

It's also the same lack of respect for Civil Rights....I not going to let you speak, because it is "Hate Speech" So I am going to Shout you down...and that tactic is a Goon squad tactic.

Or I could say ....I'm not going to let you speak because you are a jew so I am going to shout you down...

I am merely drawing a parallel from history... because it reminds me of that history...and don't you know I am a one sick indivdual who desperately needs lots of help...just ask PWD72S.

I'm sorry, but it sickens me that you equate the booing of a speaker (free speech, the freedom to do so is so freaking awesome) to what happened to those Jews.

It's sickening you trivialize what happened to the Jews like that.

Hmmmm.....maybe you will hear me this time...

No Liebschen I'm not trivializing anything....I'm afraid that its going to start happening here....and goon squad tactics of shouting down a speaker as a response to a different point of view is only the begining of that slippery slope.

Now as to the RIGHT to disagree with a speaker...yes you have the right to BOO....you also have the right to get up and walk out or not attend.

U also have the right to have all your buds attend and shout down a speaker...but that is what Hitler did...purposfully interject his goons so that a speaker could not speak could not exercise their Civil Rights...and this is the paralell I am drawing....and has nothing to do with trivializing the Holocost...

and Liebschen U tell me you don't know how to use a few words here and there to emotionalize a subject... "sickens me" "Trivializing"... "sick man" ......tsk tsk tsk.....