Did the Apprentice make the right decision last night?

CarreraS2 · 12-16-2005, 12:11 PM

I didn't watch the show much, but caught glimpses of it because my wife watched it. The guy who won, though, was pretty impressive.

I though the most compelling part of the show was when Trump asked him if Trump should hire the 2nd place woman for the other project.

Wow, what a tough "on the spot" question on live TV.

I thought the guy handled it brilliantly. He thought for a split second, then said "no." And then gave a good reason: The show is the Apprentice, not the "Apprenti," he won and he is the sole Apprentice. (Obviously he said a bit more, but it was good).

I thought that was brilliant because I think it is the *right* answer, but the one that 99% of people, if put under that pressure and in that spot, would NOT have had the guts to make, or the ability to defend with clarity and confidence. I thought it showed courage, balls, and the ability to do what was right (play by the rules of the game, not change them at the end), even though there was a real danger of making him unpopular. It showed that he could make a tough decision, quickly and without flinching, and defend it.

Whaddya think?

johncj8989 · 12-16-2005, 12:24 PM

I think the chick shoulda won cause she's smokin.

cantdrv55 · 12-16-2005, 02:03 PM

I think the best man won. Randall impressed me from day 1. Though Rebecca, I think that's her name, was equally impressive. At 23, she's shown more maturity and composure than any manager I've ever had. I think her age also did her in. Not enough experience under her belt and the post as Trump's apprentice, heading up multi-million dollar projects, may not be the place to learn the ropes.

on-ramp · 12-16-2005, 02:24 PM

Rebecca is definitely very talented and a babe to boot , but Randal beat her on the last project hands down. They raised 11 grand for the charity while Rebecca's team raised 0. That was the purpose of the task. Performance was the key.
With Randal's education and experience, he was the right candidate for the job.

I also agree with his final answer, there can only be 1 apprentice.

on-ramp · 12-16-2005, 02:30 PM

some pics...

DavidI · 12-16-2005, 02:42 PM

Although I think both were excellent, Rebecah was more forthright. Randall lied about checking on the weather for his final event. Rebecah was sharp and did not waiver under pressure. My vote was for her.

In the final moments when The Donald asked Randall if Rebecah should be hired too, he stabbed her in the back and hoarded all of the glory. He had nothing to lose by giving her the nod. He had no sense of loyalty.

Great show! David

on-ramp · 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by DavidI
Although I think both were excellent, Rebecah was more forthright. Randall lied about checking on the weather for his final event. Rebecah was sharp and did not waiver under pressure. My vote was for her.

In the final moments when The Donald asked Randall if Rebecah should be hired too, he stabbed her in the back and hoarded all of the glory. He had nothing to lose by giving her the nod. He had no sense of loyalty.

Great show! David

David, you're right, I tend to agree and I retract my earlier comments....If i was in Randal's shoes, i would have gladly let Donald hire her for another position within the organization. Doesn't take away anything from his role, so why not.....is there a rule that says only 1 person should be hired? as Trump said, "It's more than just entertainment, this is a serious decision for me and my company" or something to that effect. I say hire them both. Happy ending!

911S Targa · 911S Targa's Garage

If I were Donald, I would have hired them both, and it seamed he was ready too.. I thought they both did great jobs. He was ready to hire her. I was a little confused on why he wanted Randals approvel, when its his company, and even Donald was highly impressed with her.

AFC-911 · 12-16-2005, 03:48 PM

Perhaps, Donald wanted to know how Randall would judge future applicants...Besides, I think that Rebecca could still be hired for a project not headed by Randall.

cantdrv55 · 12-16-2005, 03:50 PM

I think if Trump was really ready to hire her, he would have. He just wanted to find out if Randall would agree with his choice.

mikester · 04:22 PM

Alright, I watched the entire damn season because my wife is addicted to it.

I enjoy the show to but mainly just for the board rooms where he fires everyone. I saw this coming a mile away too and was saying it the entire show.

Donald had no problem with altering the rules of the game and firing as many players as he wanted too. There were at least 2 boardrooms where he fired multiple people and one where he fired 4 in one shot. There is no reason he couldn't have hired both and it is obvious that it was a possibility.

Randal and Rebecca worked very well together on a lot of projects and they were excellent on their own.

Randal was clearly #1 though, clearly. Rebecca was a handlful of competition no doubt about it.

I was terribly disappointed with Randal however and maybe it's because I'm a ******* or maybe it is because I'm simply honorable. I'm honestly not sure but I try to be as honest as possible and as ethical as possible in my life. In this last boardroom these two relative equals had to go at eachother's throats to get the job. It's something that I simply would not have done to someone I respect.

Rebecca respected Randal and while there were moments that she could have used against randal she did not. Randal had creativity problems in one episode while on Rebecca's team. She was the PM for that task and they lost. Randal touted his own winning streak but left this loss out. The loss was attributed to a number of things ultimately but one of them was randal's lack of creativity. Ultimately however Clay was fired and of the three he was the one that needed to go. Rebecca didn't ever bring it up against randal and in fact she said very little that was bad about Randal. She respected him, Randal on the other hand had no trouble railing her. I simply can't and don't respect that - he left his dignity behind for a job. I don't particulary think any job is worth treating someone you respect like that.

I guess randal saw her as a threat to his future and now he has likely made an enemy of someone who will likely be extremely successful. I think the right way to play it would have been to make her an ally for life - She rewarded Toral (a complete looser) with loyalty and Toral worked her tail off for her. Previously faced with Toral's obvious failure in the boardroom Rebecca was honest because she is honest. She made an ally and used it to her success in the last episode. Randal had that opportunity and closed the door on it. Rebecca would have been an extremely valueable asset to the trump organization and I don't think it would have done anything but helped Randal. When you have someone who is CLEARLY a good employee regardless of level you hire them. Period.

Seriously.

Randal's a twit in my book now, he may be good but he's a twit because he turned his back on a clear ally when he was in total control to help them.

You can call it business all you want but it isn't good business. You can say it is preserving your own path or job but I don't think you'd be correct.

Donald would have a stronger organization today had he hired both and I feel pretty comfortable saying that she would have said to hire him given the chance.

There is no argument though; As far as performance on the show she was a clear #2 but Donald had a win/win situation there.

I'm just glad he fired the heck out of alla.

Also, I don't feel that Rebecca failed that last event by a long shot. Yahoo tied her hands on the donation gig; they said not to so she didn't and they were in charge. All Yahoo cared about was having a good time and she showed them that in spades. Randal's sponsor didnt' care a thing about anything but the cause and he did an excellent job there. Rebecca's party was awesome and she did a great job recovering from the problems she had. She did what Yahoo wanted.