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RaF944 07-23-2001 10:12 AM

GET RID OF THE IP THING!!
 
Man ip addresses are a hackers paradise. I never agreed in the terms of service to have my ip publicly shown. I dont htink evryone else wants theres shown either.

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85.5 Porsche 944

Blackfoot 07-23-2001 10:23 AM

hey, think of it as a great opportunity to take legal action if you get hacked. :-(

none, and i mean none of the forums that i've posted on before have let ip addresses be available to the public.

and since you can make your ip random, i fail to see why it's even posted.

i predict it will go away.

http://home.pacbell.net/nirky/turbo_120.jpg

AMCPorsche924Powerhaus! 07-23-2001 10:32 AM

Anyone who complains about this IP thing is just begging to be hacked!!!

If you are afraid about it being posted, it means one thing:
Your computer is not safe, and you should make it safe!
This is a wake up call to all people.


ribs 07-23-2001 10:52 AM

I would really like it if my IP was not publically visable. For instance, if you wanted to do a DOS attack on someone, all you have to do is type in "ping.exe {target IP address} -l 65500 -n 10000" at the command line and if you have a fat enough pipe, you can seriously cripple somebody's internet connection. Just that I know this is scary enough, but the fact that all you have to look up is DOS attack in hotbot to find this very command line that can cripple somebody if they haven't disabled UDP packets (and most everybody hasn't), is scary to see if you pissed someone off, they can try to shut you down. This especially sux if you have a static IP, in which case you will have to fight back.

Anyways, get rid of the public IP logging! Thanks,


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ribs, 86' 951

[This message has been edited by ribs (edited 07-23-2001).]

mideastmafia 07-23-2001 11:19 AM

and if someone wants to make their area unknown to the rest of the board, then can be found out by the IP address index.


People who replied to this post so far:
RaF944:IP: 64.210.248.135 InterNIC Registration
BlackfootIP: 216.2.24.138 Logix Communications (NETBLK-LOGIXCOM-DIGX8)
AMCPorsche924Powerhaus!IP: 207.153.26.145 Alberta Milk Producers (NETBLK-AMP-1)Dynamic
ribsIP: 129.6.195.236 National Institute of Standards and Technology (NET-NIST)


SHAUN



ribs 07-23-2001 11:25 AM

Just for fun, I ran a DOS attack on lars for a couple of minutes, and I can tell you all that his total bandwidth down is less than 5000 kilobytes / second, and he is 770 ms round trip away from me, so he is probably on dial up 56K. Lars, did you notice you connection getting really slow for a couple of minutes?

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ribs, 86' 951

Scott R 07-23-2001 11:26 AM

Just go out and download "BlackIce." It will block any inbound requests on just about every port. Complete security, no more worries.

Scott R 07-23-2001 11:32 AM

Try looking up my address. Goes nowhere...... So for everyone concerened just mask your address.

mideastmafia 07-23-2001 11:35 AM

SCOTT R: U S WEST Interprise Networking (NETBLK-USW-INTERPRISE)

SHAUN

AMCPorsche924Powerhaus! 07-23-2001 12:00 PM

Ribs, hack into my ip all you want, as you can see its changing each message i post, it's not my ip your attacking http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/smile.gif

Scott R 07-23-2001 12:13 PM

He he he. Thats not even close to where I am. But it goes to prove that I can send out almost any address I want.

Scott R 07-23-2001 12:17 PM

Should come back as netzero now, thats where I dial in through.

RaF944 07-23-2001 12:24 PM

Thanks Scott Black Ice is installed http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/smile.gif

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85.5 Porsche 944

Texatl 07-23-2001 12:28 PM

This is sooooo dumb, lots of BBS' log IP's. Look at most other BBS's of this type and they will either state the IP or have a link that states IP logged. I would assume this is because this board is a "canned" product. Meaning Pelican bought the rights or software to run this type of BBS on their server, and I would guess that IP logging is built in - part of the Ultimate Bulletin Board package.

Unless you are on a static IP you shouldn't worry. If you are THEN you either 1)Block incomming requests - 2)Shouldn't be on the net at work.

Look most people using plebian net access, use dial-up like AOL (compuserve, AOL, netscape), MSN, etc... and those services have dynamic IP or super dynamic IP's (that one cannot even decipher or access). Even if you saw a dynamic IP, I doubt one could access anything on that network (dial-up IP).

Those with static IP's pay a lot of money to have them, and appropriately should take measures to protect their investment, if not then its their fault.

Further, the only ones on this board who must worry about an attack is Shaun, Por2by, and Grommit for pissing everyone off periodically. http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/shake.gif Just Kidding!

Anyway, I think the panties are getting bunched, pretty damn tight, for no reason!

I can feel the flames coming,
Rich

UPDATE: After a search, looks like IP is new, I amend the first paragraph, but still could care less about the whole topic.


[This message has been edited by Texatl (edited 07-23-2001).]

Blackfoot 07-23-2001 12:37 PM

on my 3000gt bbs, the ip is "logged" but only admins can see it.

http://home.pacbell.net/nirky/turbo_120.jpg

mideastmafia 07-23-2001 01:24 PM

you can do more with this IP stuff than you think...


texatl:

Trying whois for 63.11.120.249...
Connection established.

Query: 63.11.120.249
Registry: ....
Results:
UUNET Technologies, Inc. (NETBLK-NETBLK-UUNET97DU)
3060 Williams Drive, Suite 601
Fairfax, va 22031
US

Netname: NETBLK-UUNET97DU
Netblock: 63.0.0.0 - 63.63.255.255
Maintainer: UUDA

Coordinator:
UUNET, Technical Support (OA12-ARIN) help@uu.net
(800) 900-0241

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

DIALDNS1.UU.NET 153.39.194.10
DIALDNS2.UU.NET 153.39.194.26
DIALDNS200.NS.UU.NET 195.129.111.3
DIALDNS210.NS.UU.NET 195.129.111.4

ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

Record last updated on 20-Jun-2001.
Database last updated on 21-Jul-2001 23:13:10 EDT.

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Watch yourself.


SHAUN

[This message has been edited by mideastmafia (edited 07-23-2001).]

p0r2chby 07-23-2001 01:24 PM

Hey Tex... What did I ever do to piss you off?

Lets play it this way. Leave me out of this. Did you ever think that by just posting my name, you give the local deviants a target and instill the idea to go after me again... http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/nono.gif

Quote:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Texatl:
Further, the only ones on this board who must worry about an attack is Shaun, Por2by, and Grommit for pissing everyone off periodically. http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/shake.gif Just Kidding!
[This message has been edited by Texatl (edited 07-23-2001).]
</font>

mideastmafia 07-23-2001 01:27 PM

he said JUST KIDDING.. learn to take a joke.. im getting sick of you too!


SHAUN

mideastmafia 07-23-2001 01:29 PM

POR2CHBY:

Trying whois for 32.97.110.69...
Connection established.

Query: 32.97.110.69
Registry: ...
Results:
IBM Global Services (NETBLK-IBMGLOBALSERV)
4 Bedford Farms
Bedford, NH 03110-6528
US

Netname: IBMGLOBALSERV
Netblock: 32.0.0.0 - 32.255.255.255
Maintainer: IBMA

Coordinator:
Sides Jr., Phil (PS4071-ARIN) postmaster@attglobal.net
603-224-3815 (FAX) 781-623-8379

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NS.UK.IBM.NET 152.158.16.48
NS.DE.IBM.NET 152.158.2.48
NS.NL.IBM.NET 152.158.36.48

Record last updated on 05-Mar-2001.
Database last updated on 21-Jul-2001 23:13:10 EDT.

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Lemme guess, you live in the sanjose/bay area.. i can tell by your block section.

u want your home address public? http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif


SHAUN

[This message has been edited by mideastmafia (edited 07-23-2001).]

p0r2chby 07-23-2001 01:37 PM

Thanks TEX...

EugeneYu 07-23-2001 01:57 PM

Cool!

p0r2chby 07-23-2001 02:05 PM

Shaun, a threat.... nice, very nice...

mideastmafia 07-23-2001 03:30 PM

how was that a threat? you want a threat, e-mail me:

mideastmafia@hotmail.com


SHAUN

Texatl 07-23-2001 03:53 PM

Shaun,
Nice job on tracking down an IP address, but really, does it matter. With that IP what can you really find out. My Name, address, phone, ssn, etc... probably not, or maybe. I don't know, but my guess is NOT.

Unless I'm wrong the dynamic IP will only tell you what network I'm on, but nothing about me. If I'm wrong let me know, but keep replies or info to DYNAMIC IP not static. I do know static is a totally different thing.

BTW, now I am really pissed, I HATE UUNET and my dial-up uses their network, no wonder my dial-up sucks. Speaking of which, although you found UUNET did you find exactly whose service I actually access the net from???

Not trying to incite, just trying to disagree and gain knowledge all at the same time.

Por2chby, you never pissed me off, but seeing how you got in the middle of a bunch of crap earlier, I had to include you for full effect. Using Shaun and Grommit without adding you, would have been, well, incomplete. Don't take it the wrong way, just having some fun. Remember those panties I spoke about, dude check yours. Its all good!

Have a great day,
Rich

mideastmafia 07-23-2001 03:58 PM

haahahah..


rich, i dont know anymore info other than that.. and NO, i dont think it is THAT easy to be getting peoples address's and all that.. if it WAS like that, then imagine how much junk you would have in your mail box.

if someone gets your e-mail address, then send you MILLIONS of junk mail everyday. image if your home address was that easy to access. WOW! haha


SHAUN

p0r2chby 07-23-2001 04:00 PM

Hey tex, ya, sure it's all good... my pants, they didnt get bunched up till your post gave (.....) the idea to dig up data on me and then threaten to post my home address. THEN, my pants got bunched. Not at you, but at the fact that every (......) with a keyboard would now try to harass me. Thanks be that I have a nice firewall to help keep the riff-raff out. Gona have to spread some more decon tonight.

So, you have a great evening, see ya on the other side.... p0r

Ven 07-23-2001 05:04 PM

Ok, IP logging is fine and dandy I run it on my BBS. But displaying FULL IP's is not a good idea. Thats why most BBS even the UBBS system used here has the option to not display IP's or only display partial IP's.

And if you have a dial up you will not be banned from IP alone. Since you will get a new one via DHCP server everytime you dial up. the only way to ban those is to ban IP's in that ISP's block of IP's. Like you could ban all AOL userer not just one. Or at least thats been my experience.

Ted Stringer 07-24-2001 04:43 AM

If you are afraid of having your IP seen on hte internet, disconnect. Every e-mail you send has YOUR IP in the header, as well as the IP of every mail server that forwarded the message. This is how I know that when a friend e-mails me from Maryland the message goes through Hawaii. As a network engineer, your IP is just like your street address. Having the address is only a starting point if you are going to break in. But then there are port scanners that will scan massive networks for vurnable computers. Wayne isn't dumb enough to risk the security of a large part of his client base. If you don't want you IP visable fine, but it doesn't matter.

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Ted Stringer
nuke3@juno.com
'84 911 Targa aka pocketrocket


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