Hamas terrorists elected leaders of Palestine, peace hopeless.

[jkarolyi]

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/26/palestinian.election/index.html

So the Palestinians have elected the suicide bomber-supporting Hamas party rather than the more moderate, peace-pursuing Fatah. This after Palestine gaining the West Bank recenty. I'm beginning to think people in that area (including the Israelis) actually desire bloodshed and will fight until every last person is dead rather than pursue peace.

We spend over $20,000 on EACH Israeli man, woman, and child EVERY YEAR (including interest on the debt we borrow for this aid) !!! Plus we give millions to the Palestinian authority as well, which is now in the hands of terrorists. Yes, that's right, we're now directly giving millions to a group that wishes the end of the nation that pays for its existance.

Peace will never work in this area. NEVER. There is no hope. And this is coming from someone who holds great hope for Iraq and other ME nations. I say we cut all funds to Israel and Palestine and let them settle their disputes once and for all. They will either kill each other off or learn to get along like decent human beings.

[Joeaksa]

Am in the area and everyone is having kittens. No one expected Hamas to win this number of seats, only to get a few and upset the "apple cart" a bit.

Israel, the Europeans and USA have all said that they will not work with terrorists in this govt, and everyone considers Hamas a terrorist organization.

The Israeli's are in an emergency meeting, the Palestinian cabinet and leader (Abbas) just resigned and its going to be very interesting for a while. Hope things just stay quiet for a while until the dust settles...

Joe A

[RallyJon]

What an interesting development!

From what I hear/read, to the Palestinean voters, Hamas represented not so much terrorism, but the end of Fattah's culture of corruption. This certainly makes sense, since I have a hard time believing that the majority of Palestineans would be in favor of many more years of intifada.

I think there's a lot of potential here. If Hamas takes this result as an endorsement of continued terrorism, there will be a brief (or prolonged) bloodbath. More likely--I think--is that Hamas will get to work trying to build a government. Nevermind what they said on the campaign trail, right now they have a people to govern.

You can go from sadistic militant to responsible politician and caring leader of your people. Look at Sharon.

[einreb]

Hummus is so tasty, who wouldnt vote for it?

[Joeaksa]

Well, its getting nasty now. The Hamas people are forming outside the govt HQ and just stormed the building to put up their flag in place of the old one. Shots fired and lots of ambulances.

This could be very interesting...

Joe A

[RallyJon]

I can imagine the transition will be nasty. Like trying to get Gore out of the naval observatory in 2000.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Well, its getting nasty now. The Hamas people are forming outside the govt HQ and just stormed the building to put up their flag in place of the old one. Shots fired and lots of ambulances.

This could be very interesting...

Joe A

I haven't seen that on the news here yet Joe, they said only that there was a scuffle with rocks being thrown.

[aways]

David Horowitz sums it up nicely:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21056

The Palestinian Nazi Party has won the elections. This is a party, Hamas, that calls for the obliteration of the Jewish state (in so many words) and the killing of Jews because they are Jews (in so many words), and cites the Koranic damnation of Jews and incitement to murder Jews in justification. Hamas is a party of Islamic fanatics who are part of the global jihad against the United States and the West, whose hero is Osama bin Laden. Hamas was the biggest foreign supporter of Saddam Hussein. Wtih this vote in record numbers, the Palestinian people have joined en masse the Axis of Evil. They are the self-declared enemies of Jews, of America and of civilized values, and should be treated as such. The Palestinians have declared with this vote they want no peace. They should be given none.

The defeated Fatah Party -- the "moderate" party -- is of course the creation of the terrorist Yassir Arafat. Its official charter calls for the destruction of Israel and its leadership has been dedicated to terror since the the PLO was created by the dictator Nasser and the KGB in 1964. Its leader Mahmoud Abbas is a Holocaust denier and the financier of the kidnapping and execution of the Israeli Olympic team in Munich in 1972, and Arafat's ally in terror for the duration since.

But then the father of Palestinian nationalism himself is the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem al-Husseini a fanatical devotee of Adolf Hitler who served the Nazi cause in Berlin during the Second World War and infused Palestinian nationalism with the Jew-hatred that has dominated it ever since.

The Palestinians are the first people in the history of humanity to embrace terror and genocide as a way of life. Palestinian schools train kindergarteners and first graders to aspire to murder innocent Jews by blowing themselves up alongside them, and then tell the children that if they're lucky enough to have male genitalia they will go to heaven and be rewarded with 72 virgins to attend their every whim. Palestinian parents murder their own children by telling them to kill Jewish children so that Allah can receive them. This is the sickest culture on the face of the earth, and the fact that it is supported by secular leftists in Europe and America reveals the terminal sickness, as well, of those who crusade in the name of "social justice."

At the core of this sickness is a hatred for the West and Israel for the crimes of being successful, democratic and tolerant.And at the core of that sickness is self-hatred. Self-hatred for the 1,000 year failure of Arab Muslim culture to compete with the West and for the absolute bankruptcy of the Palestinian cause -- despite billions and billions of dollars poured into the West Bank and Gaza by Europe, Israel and the United States whose sole purpose was to help this people consumed in their own emotional poisons. The money of course was stolen in transit by their corrupt and homicidal leaders who buried their loot in Swiss bank accounts or used it to buy weapons of mass murder, and to spread destruction, which is the only contribution that the Arabs of the Palestinian mandate have made to the world since their national aspirations were first announced half a century ago. .

[singpilot]

Originally posted by RallyJon
I can imagine the transition will be nasty. Like trying to get Gore out of the naval observatory in 2000.

I made the mistake of having that first cup of morning coffee out here in sunny SoCal when I read the most perfect comment on all of PP this morning.

I needed to clean the computer keyboard anyway.....


This IS going to be interesting.... A democratically elected terrorist organization.

Condie is not going to be able to straighten this out as easily as she straightens her hair.

Thanks Jon, you made my day. Joe, you keep your head low over there.

[jkarolyi]

As reported on Al Jazeera:

The slogan of Hamas is "God is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of God is the loftiest of its wishes."

Wow. First the Iranians elect a holocaust-denying, nuclear bomb-pursuing, USA and Israel destroying hard liner, and now this. Kind of makes you wonder if the majority of Muslims really are a peace-loving people as portrayed by the international media. I think this proves otherwise.

[Joeaksa]

Len,

Watching it live on TV now, ambulances all over the place and those idiots firing AK's in the air everywhere. They forget that the bullets that go up in the air have to come down somewhere.

As well saw it live where the Hamas people were storming the building, ladders on the side and putting the large green flags on the top, then the black and white checkered head scarf over the Fatah plaque on the outside of the building. They want power and they want it now.

Michael, thanks and heading out to Northholt tomorrow. Glad to get back to London! When you coming on duty?

Joe A

In the West Bank, Hamas and Fatah supporters scuffled Thursday outside the Palestinian parliament building when Hamas supporters attempted to raise the green Hamas flag.

Shots were fired into the air, observers said. The scuffle came as thousands of Palestinians celebrated the election results in Ramallah and Gaza.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/26/palestinian.election/index.html


Clash

In Ram Allah, Hamas and Fatah activists clashed at the Palestinian parliament on Thursday after Hamas won the elections, witnesses said.

A Reuters witness said the trouble started after Hamas members hoisted a green Hamas flag at the entrance to the building, and Fatah supporters tried to tear it down.

Shooting briefly erupted during the melee, witnesses said. At least two people were injured but it was unclear whether they were wounded by gunfire. Police said there were no serious casualties.

Several windows were broken at the parliament building by stone throwers.

Palestinian security forces rushed to the scene to try to disperse the rivals.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/45C9C349-9BAA-4ECF-BD02-F37B93226C24.htm

[lendaddy]

I have Fox News on in my office and they have not shown any footage though they have been discussing it all morning. I wonder if they even have an agent over there???? They may have to wait for Al Jazeera to gift them a feed.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by jkarolyi
As reported on Al Jazeera:

The slogan of Hamas is "God is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of God is the loftiest of its wishes."

Wow. First the Iranians elect a holocaust-denying, nuclear bomb-pursuing, USA and Israel destroying hard liner, and now this. Kind of makes you wonder if the majority of Muslims really are a peace-loving people as portrayed by the international media. I think this proves otherwise.

My fears for the last 10 years. Ever hear of the Crusades? They may be coming back...

Joe A

[singpilot]

I get BBC here in the slip in SoCal on the DISH. Is the only real news available in the States. Am watching it there. Sorry to see this, so much progress was being made, all of it painful. Was in and out of TelAviv all summer, seeing the effects of the withdrawl firsthand (albeit from behind the scenes). Could still hear the mortars crumping at night up in the heights thru the open sliding glass doors on the 15th floor.

I drew an 'on 4 hour call' thru the 9th. Nothing so far (5 days so far), haha. Love it when that happens following a 12 days off.

[Tishabet]

Originally posted by RallyJon

You can go from sadistic militant to responsible politician and caring leader of your people. Look at Sharon.

Excellent observation RallyJon.

[Nathans_Dad]

Why do I get the feeling that Israel and the Palestinians will be in an all out war inside of a year? Bad juju brewing here IMHO.

[wcc]

I'm sorry, but I don't care what religion you are. But if you are praying to God, a prophet, or whatever and they say murdering and suicide is the way to salvation? YOU ARE PRAYING TO THE WRONG PEOPLE!!!!

I say we pull out now, don't sink anymore money over there to rebuild, aid, or anything. Did we get ANY help from them after Sept 11? NO! Anyways, pull out and put all the money towards our security, and the people here. Then put stricter punishment for people trying to "sneak" in. If someone wants to live or goto school here then go through the process or forget it!

It would've been nice to see Osama Bin Laden swing though.

[bryanthompson]

Rush just made a good point... Now that Hamas is the official leadership of the palestinians, any attacks they commit will be acts of war from the nation of "Palestine" to Israel, and would make Israeli retaliation even more justifiable. I don't think this is the worst thing that could have happened, because up until now, they've been hiding behind a guise of wanting peace. Now, it's an official terrorist "state" run by terrorists who say in their mission statement that they want to push the Jews into the sea. Doesn't get much clearer than that!

[Tim Hancock]

Good point Bryan (and Rush)!

[aways]

No more naive leftist assumptions regarding the motives of the Palestinians. They don't want "peace" -- they never did. They want to wipe Israel off the map. Clarity is liberating.