How not drive in the snow

bell · bell's Garage

yes you screwed up the title LOL

she got lucky....looks like she was almost inverted in a creek, which is never a good thing.

Dave L · 02-11-2006, 07:34 PM

The car is probably the only one she owned and even then I dont see why the celica would be "bad" in the snow. I watched the news tonight about a woman who left the road and ended in a canal, she drown along with her kid. Very sad, I am glad the girl in the Celica made it out okay.

What I would love to see is mandatory snow tires in areas where snow is a ussual occurance (Canada, northern US). While I am sure it will never happen I do belive that people need to be made aware through advertising that all season tires simply are not safe in the snow. After buying my first set of snow's last year I will never go back. All Season tires just dont cut it.

Rick V · 02-12-2006, 07:46 AM

Looks like the folks in NC. take the same driving corses offerered in VA. I stay off the roads not because of my driving or my equipment but for the rest of the people who don't have a clue!

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

I had a 180 spin on the Beltway this morning. It lasted a while and I was sure I was gonna roll over (Mazda SUV). I wonder if I damaged my tranny at all, since it's an auto and was in 4WD when I lost control. Luckily, no one was around and I just turned around and continued on my way.

Mulhollanddose · 02-12-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by procon
Couldn't agree more & FWIW I do have an aggressive set of snow tires on the rear of my 924 just for the winter months.

I hear ya, although the problems are a little different out here...I think I need a bit stickier more aggressive tire for our winter months...perhaps an R-compound of some sort....

competentone · 02-12-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by procon
The same spot claimed four in 2005, two of which made it into the creek.

Who ever is responsible for that section or road had better get a proper guard rail on that bridge (that is a bridge isn't it?).

If there has already been one accident that has claimed four lives, I'd hate to be the attorney trying to explain why such an obvious hazard wasn't eliminated with a few thousand dollars worth of proper guard rail.

competentone · 02-12-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by procon
99% of these accidents are due to excessive speed & based on this fact, it is clearly posted at 10 mph.
Heed the warnings or suffer the consequences.

I doubt that those 4x4s and 2x6s would do much to stop an average car traveling at 10 mph. It looks like the type of guard rail one would use on a foot bridge, not a bridge for car traffic.

I'd bet that whatever body of government is responsible for maintaining that bridge/road has probably spent a lot of money on frivolous things and ignored what looks to be a pretty obvious hazard.

What did you mean by the earlier comment "The same spot claimed four in 2005"? I interpreted it to mean four people died in an accident there.

singpilot · 08:31 AM

For several years I was based in Raleigh during the winter (hockey) season. For those that are not familiar, the style of driving in the Raleigh area is 'NASCAR-all-the-way'. They do not follow other cars on the roads, they 'draft'. They do not slow for turns, they fade to the apex. Traffic Signals are only a 'suggestion', and there does not seem to be the ability to 'black flag' anyone. Although I have never seen an actual NASCAR race run in snow and ice, it is only an accident of the calendar that it has not actually happened.

The first snowfall or ice storm of the season tends to remove the worst offenders until suitable rental cars can be arranged. Once those are quickly and expertly in the ditch, a second rental car is typically not available, and the roads are almost safe until the auto body repair places can recover from the onslought. Between the airport and town (8 miles) we counted over 100 cars in the ditch on one such night.

It's a North Carolina thang. The breakfast diner I used to eat in had a sign at the front door that said...... "WE PROUDLY DO NOT OFFER A NON-SMOKING SECTION".

No, you do not get used to it.

singpilot · 02-13-2006, 04:59 AM

Of course, the first seasonal rain in SoCal does the same thing to most of the NASCAR-wanna-be's there too.

slakjaw · 02-13-2006, 05:07 AM

What did the car get hung up on? I cant tell from the pic.

That pic/ the thought of going inverted onto water really creeps the hell out of me.

livi · 02-13-2006, 07:03 AM

I gathered it was some new type of American space saving parking lot technique. Glad she came out ok.

Tervuren · Tervuren's Garage

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Originally posted by Dave L
The car is probably the only one she owned and even then I dont see why the celica would be "bad" in the snow.

I know a girl who drives a Celica as her only car, her's is light metalic blue though. She's a bit crazy driver on the street, always hoping something like this doesn't happen to her. On the track its another story, fastest feale I've ever raced with. Puts all but the best guys to shame.

I had my first time on icey roads ever this Sunday early morning, gave myself 2X the time to get there. My only slide was quite intentional.

The thing I do not get, is complaining about people driving on snow for the first time, stating they should of stayed home, if they never drive on it, how will they learn? If you know, and you have a freind/neighbor that doesn't, rather then rant at them, teach 'em.

fastpat · 02-13-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
I had a 180 spin on the Beltway this morning. It lasted a while and I was sure I was gonna roll over (Mazda SUV). I wonder if I damaged my tranny at all, since it's an auto and was in 4WD when I lost control. Luckily, no one was around and I just turned around and continued on my way.

Your tranny is probably OK, you remained right side up the whole time, right?

fastpat · 02-13-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by singpilot
For several years I was based in Raleigh during the winter (hockey) season. For those that are not familiar, the style of driving in the Raleigh area is 'NASCAR-all-the-way'. They do not follow other cars on the roads, they 'draft'. They do not slow for turns, they fade to the apex. Traffic Signals are only a 'suggestion', and there does not seem to be the ability to 'black flag' anyone. Although I have never seen an actual NASCAR race run in snow and ice, it is only an accident of the calendar that it has not actually happened.

The first snowfall or ice storm of the season tends to remove the worst offenders until suitable rental cars can be arranged. Once those are quickly and expertly in the ditch, a second rental car is typically not available, and the roads are almost safe until the auto body repair places can recover from the onslought. Between the airport and town (8 miles) we counted over 100 cars in the ditch on one such night.

It's a North Carolina thang. The breakfast diner I used to eat in had a sign at the front door that said...... "WE PROUDLY DO NOT OFFER A NON-SMOKING SECTION".

No, you do not get used to it.

It doesn't seem to matter where you are, bad drivers are out there. I lived in Montana for four years long ago, and every year at first snowfall and a few days after there would be a series of accidents like this one, or worse. Hundreds of fender benders by people overshooting intersections from low or no braking friction on the road.

Then it would more or less clear up, but not totally stop, until the next year.