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tabs 03-08-2006 01:27 PM

No One Even Noticed or Commented
 
I am wondering why Bushes trip to India and the deal he cut with them wasn't even mentioned on this Board. The effects of his deal with the Indians is very far reaching and is a coup.

krichard 03-08-2006 01:35 PM

Is it too late to abort Bush?

scottmandue 03-08-2006 02:03 PM

Come on now... the white man decimated the Indians years ago.

Joeaksa 03-08-2006 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by krichard
Is it too late to abort Bush?
Good idea! We can practice on you and if it works then look into doing it to various politicians. When will you be ready for the test run?

krichard 03-08-2006 02:10 PM

Whenever, my schedule is pretty open.

kach22i 03-08-2006 02:11 PM

Re: No One Even Noticed or Commented
 
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Originally posted by tabs
I am wondering why Bushes trip to India and the deal he cut with them wasn't even mentioned on this Board. The effects of his deal with the Indians is very far reaching and is a coup.
Bush rewards India for going rogue many years ago and developing nukes........thereby encourging every other country in the world to do the same.

News at 11:00, Bush sells out America..................oh wait that's not news anymore, happens almost everyday.

livi 03-09-2006 12:55 AM

Whats his motive for patting India on the back and giving Pakistan a brush of (more or less) ? I would think Pakistan has a potential of being of more concern in the future.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-09-2006 03:35 AM

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Originally posted by livi
Whats his motive for patting India on the back and giving Pakistan a brush of (more or less) ? I would think Pakistan has a potential of being of more concern in the future.
China is our greatest economic threat. We need a partner like India. Of course the irony is that the Chinese threat is built on U.S. debt for the War in Iraq and cheap goods at Walmart at the expense of U.S. manufacturing.

stuartj 03-09-2006 03:42 AM

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Originally posted by livi
Whats his motive for patting India on the back and giving Pakistan a brush of (more or less) ? I would think Pakistan has a potential of being of more concern in the future.
Theres a billion people in India, and a burgeoning middle class, thanks to all the call centre and tech jobs being exported from the US. In keeping witn tradition (ally, enemy, market or mine), its a maket. What does a market need to develop, what with all those middle class consumer with money bruning holes in their pockets? Energy, in this case, electricty. Where is India going to get the elcetricity? Nuclear tech from the US (well hell, they will just buy to from omeone else anyway) and uranium form Australia.

Hey, never mind India refused to sign that nasty Nuc Proliferation Treaty.

livi 03-09-2006 03:50 AM

Global politics - what a mind warp. I am clueless. One can only hope for the best..

fastpat 03-09-2006 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by kach22i
Bush rewards India for going rogue many years ago and developing nukes........thereby encourging every other country in the world to do the same.

News at 11:00, Bush sells out America..................oh wait that's not news anymore, happens almost everyday.

It's worse, he's giving them nuclear power plants at our expense (US plants aren't the best and haven't been for years), and then selling them nuclear fuel either at no cost or very low cost, when most of our nuke power plants here pay full price.

More work by the little sociofascist in the White House.

techweenie 03-09-2006 05:56 AM

I think the press has become so wussy these days that nobody wants to tackle the various issues that fall out (pun intended) of this deal.

India and Pakistan have long been a few harsh words away from mutual nuclear obliteration. So we help out India while snubbing our "strong ally in the war on terror?" You know, the one that lets us drop missiles on their citizens without more than a whimper? WTF sense does that make?

Tabs, the reason this and other ridiculous Bush blunders didn't get discussed here is that the Bushistas would claim these mistakes were 'brilliant strategery.' It gets boring after a while.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-09-2006 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by techweenie


Tabs, the reason this and other ridiculous Bush blunders didn't get discussed here is that the Bushistas would claim these mistakes were 'brilliant strategery.' It gets boring after a while.

Either that or they would sarcastically post "it's all bush's fault" as though the man were a middle manager in a mid-size company and not responsible for ultimately calling every shot in this country, which is a good definition of his job.

kach22i 03-09-2006 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
It's worse, he's giving them nuclear power plants at our expense (US plants aren't the best and haven't been for years), and then selling them nuclear fuel either at no cost or very low cost, when most of our nuke power plants here pay full price.

More work by the little sociofascist in the White House.

Is that what was happening - no one said anything!

I could not get the blue turbin out of my mind, Nostradamus should of kept his mouth shut.:D

ChrisBennet 03-09-2006 06:34 AM

Some facts I glean from something I heard on the radio the other day:

- India is on it's way to being the largest population in the world and has a growing need for energy. Without nuclear power, that energy is going to come from dirty coal. Keeping them from burning that coal is our best interests (polution wise).

- In order to sign the Non Proliferation Treaty India would have to give up their nuclear weapons. There is no provision in the treaty for countries to join if they have nukes and want to keep them.

- Back in the 50's (?) India broke their word that they wouldn't use nuclear material from their civilian power program for their strategic/weapon's program.

- Unlike our Pakistani allies, India has not passed on bomb making technology/instructions to other countries. (Pakistan passed on that info to Iran and North Korea.)

-Chris

widebody911 03-09-2006 06:47 AM

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1967 R50/2 03-09-2006 09:23 AM

Tabs-

This WAS discussed at length:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?threadid=269166&highlight=india

BTW: India is a democracy. Pakistan isn't. That has some bearing on nuclear diplomacy. (as well as any other diplomacy).

fintstone 03-09-2006 02:50 PM

Simple. Tranfer of risk. Tree huggers will not allow nuclear power or oil drilling in most places in the US.....so encourage other countries to use nuclear so there is more oil for the US.

What is the wost case scenario...a major disaster where a nuclear cloud covers India and China?

it is clearly in our best interests to keep a balance between India and Pakistan...sworn enemies with nuclear capabilities.

Lets open a large market for China besides the US. Then lets build that wall on our southern borders.

Nuclear proliferation treaty? When has signing that ever stopped anyone from trying to make nuclear weapons?

Some of you guys make Bush look smart.

nostatic 03-09-2006 03:13 PM

Due to cultural aspects, India has a chance of eclipsing China as the serious power in the world. As such anything we can do to remain friendly with India is probably a good thing...

fastpat 03-10-2006 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by nostatic
Due to cultural aspects, India has a chance of eclipsing China as the serious power in the world. As such anything we can do to remain friendly with India is probably a good thing...
Interesting comment. India has almost no history of cultural xenophobia which is a huge part of Chinese culture.

Naturally, India's future demands for petroleum is one of the main reasons the Bush'ists wanted control of the Iraqi oil fields.


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