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fastpat 04-04-2006 05:54 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
Bingo!

Just wrote that in another thread. Repubs care about Repubs. Americans care about America.

That's why Repubs are on the way out.

They will be on the way out as soon as the Democrats do the following:

1. Not only drop gun control from their agenda, but adopt a strict interpretation of the Second Amendment as protecting an intrinsic right to own any weapon.

2. Drop their anti-business policies, particularly those that prohibit small businesses and favor large ones.

3. Drop their income and inheritance wealth realocation policies.

4. Stop the class warfare crap.

5. Stop the religious support of the monstrous Franklin Roosevelt and his terrible American fascism.

As soon as they do those things, they'll be elected in droves and show the Republicans, who were born in corruption, the door.

Rick Lee 04-04-2006 05:54 AM

It's tough to list them in order, but I'm particularly proud of the repeal of the Assault Weapons Ban in 1996 or 1997, the passage of Meghan's Law, the Impeachment of Bubba, the passage of the Balanced Budget Amendment in '95 (failed in the Senate thanks to Mark Hatfield), the passage of Bush's tax cuts in 2001. Does this get you even more excited?

hunter914 04-04-2006 05:55 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Aren't you cute:) The adults are talking honey, hush hush.
Please tell me you have the flu or something and recently took Nyquil.

lendaddy 04-04-2006 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by hunter914
Please tell me you have the flu or something and recently took Nyquil.
You got me there, bit of a chest cold these last few days. No meds yet today though, why do you ask? You hoping for a nip of pappys' cough medicine?

lendaddy 04-04-2006 06:50 AM

The spin is settling down and the reality is setting in. The millions Dems spent attacking DeLay has more than likely cost them a seat in '06. The general belief is that ANY Rep other than Delay will walk over the Dem challenger in that district.

A classic case of be careful what you wish for:)

hunter914 04-04-2006 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
The spin is settling down and the reality is setting in. The millions Dems spent attacking DeLay has more than likely cost them a seat in '06. The general belief is that ANY Rep other than Delay will walk over the Dem challenger in that district.
Who spent these millions? What were they spent on? Where did the money come from? Sources man! C'mon, adults don't just post generalizations, they post sourced facts in honest debate.

general belief? WTF does that mean?

Rick Lee 04-04-2006 07:09 AM

The DNC, Nancy Pelosi, Campaign for America's Future and MoveOn.org have spent plenty of money (though not in the millions) with my company, issuing press releases attacking DeLay. I sure wish those were my accounts. Alas, DeLay's office was my client and I've lost him.

fastpat 04-04-2006 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
It's tough to list them in order, but I'm particularly proud of the repeal of the Assault Weapons Ban in 1996 or 1997, the passage of Meghan's Law, the Impeachment of Bubba, the passage of the Balanced Budget Amendment in '95 (failed in the Senate thanks to Mark Hatfield), the passage of Bush's tax cuts in 2001. Does this get you even more excited?
The Assault Weapons Act of 1994 was not repealed, if that had been what was required, we'd still have it. The built in sunset clause was the only thing that got rid of this assault on the right to be armed.

Meghan's law I'm not particularly familiar with, so I'll look it up. Just as I thought, another usurpation of state power, so this is nothing to be proud of at all.

The Impeachment of Clinton could have been good, but for the fact that they impeached him over trivial matters, but left his gross violations of office and anti-Constitutional behavior alone. Now that we see the actions of Bush, we know why.

There are no tax cuts, only shifts in where the taxes fall. The only true tax cut is one where the revenue going to government is reduced. Anytime total tax revenue increases, that's a tax increase. True tax cuts reduce the amount of money sent to government by all tax sources, since as we know, the payer of all taxes is the individual American.

lendaddy 04-04-2006 07:14 AM

As Rick points out DeLay was a focus point or lightening rod for fund raising for the Dems. Anti-DeLay ads have been running in Texas pretty much non stop courtesy of non-texas sources.

Do you pay any attention to this stuff or just pop in for the occassional insult and/or ignorant comment?

fastpat 04-04-2006 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
As Rick points out DeLay was a focus point or lightening rod for fund raising for the Dems. Anti-DeLay ads have been running in Texas pretty much non stop courtesy of non-texas sources.
Of course, you expected less? Clinton is still fulfilling that role for you neo-cons.

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Do you pay any attention to this stuff or just pop in for the occassional insult and/or ignorant comment?
What a silly statement. :rolleyes:

lendaddy 04-04-2006 07:22 AM

Sorry Pat I didn't know you knew hunter914, is he a member of your militia?

Rick Lee 04-04-2006 07:22 AM

Pat, the House DID repeal the AWB, but it never even got a serious look in the Senate. Plenty of stuff that passes the House dies a quiet death in the Senate.

lendaddy 04-04-2006 07:26 AM

Rick,

Can/Will DeLay transfer his campaign money to his replacement or is that not allowed? I'm not sure what the rules are.

hunter914 04-04-2006 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
The DNC, Nancy Pelosi, Campaign for America's Future and MoveOn.org have spent plenty of money (though not in the millions) with my company, issuing press releases attacking DeLay. I sure wish those were my accounts. Alas, DeLay's office was my client and I've lost him.
Thanks for a good honest answer. Too bad the liberal media doesn't report enough on DeLay's various criminal activities so that they wouldn't have to, or perhaps they need to spend it to combat the right wing apologist media that spews out crap so guys like daddy have something to say, feel "connected", or are just being fed to fulfill their insecurities as angry white males who no one pays attention to. Rush has certainly filled that void and made more $ off of the daddies of the world than Pelosis could ever spend fighting the disinformation record.

lendaddy 04-04-2006 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by hunter914
Too bad the liberal media doesn't report enough on DeLay's various criminal activities
Ok, now that I've stopped laughing:D
I believe it was you that said Sources man! C'mon, adults don't just post generalizations, they post sourced facts in honest debate.

So please post those crimes and your sources. This outta be good. :D

Rick Lee 04-04-2006 07:38 AM

Len, DeLay can do just about anything with his campaign war chest except keep it for himself. I'm sure he'll create a PAC or two and dole it out to GOP candidates, as most of them do.

Hunter, you're kidding right? You think the media are covering up for DeLay? Have you read some of the crackpot press releases I'm talking about? I read all of them and I pray for more. It's more money for my company and it makes the folks who issue them look like complete idiots. Dean and Pelosi are truly the gifts that keep on giving. For me it's a double dip.

Rodeo 04-04-2006 07:49 AM

Delay has very little money. The money dried up the same time his influence did.

Nothing but bugs and bars for his future. Couldn't happen to a nicer fellow.

Oh, Rick. Cutting taxes when you don't have the honor or decency to cut federal spending is not something to be proud of. Everyone blames Bush for the sorry state of our budget deficit and national debt. He showed a lack of leadership on the issue, no doubt, but Delay and Frist are the first tier felons in that regard. They ate through the surplus and destroyed, completely destroyed, any sense of fiscal sanity in our country. Our children will pay the price.

DeLay should go to jail for that alone.

lendaddy 04-04-2006 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
Delay has very little money. The money dried up the same time his influence did.
And by none you mean the second most of anyone?

Candidate Money Leaders
Top 10 House Candidate Receipts
Amount State
Party Candidate Name Through
1. $3,757,090 NJ
DEM MENENDEZ, ROBERT 12/31/2005
2. $3,227,775 TX
REP DELAY, THOMAS DALE 02/15/2006
3. $3,030,296 TN
DEM FORD, HAROLD JR 12/31/2005
4. $2,719,259 IL
REP HASTERT, DENNIS J. 03/01/2006
5. $2,637,247 FL
REP HARRIS, KATHERINE 12/31/2005
6. $2,007,885 IL
REP MCSWEENEY, DAVID 03/01/2006
7. $2,002,826 IL
DEM BEAN, MELISSA LUBURICH 03/01/2006
8. $1,873,604 CA
REP ROACH, VINCENT ERIC 03/22/2006
9. $1,851,266 TX
DEM LAMPSON, NICHOLAS 02/15/2006
10. $1,839,023 CA
DEM MATSUI, DORIS 12/31/2005

Rick Lee 04-04-2006 07:53 AM

Well Rodeo, I never said I loved anyone in Congress because of their spending (except for Tom Coburn). But you asked about some of the bills I was happy about. Disect it anyway you want. Dems would not have spent a penny less.

hunter914 04-04-2006 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Lee


Hunter, you're kidding right? You think the media are covering up for DeLay? Have you read some of the crackpot press releases I'm talking about? I read all of them and I pray for more. It's more money for my company and it makes the folks who issue them look like complete idiots. Dean and Pelosi are truly the gifts that keep on giving. For me it's a double dip.

Yes rick, just kidding on this one. daddy is one easy dude to get all riled up. i'd hate to be a pair of his panties. "those aren't pillows"!


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