Removing the Stigma

[slakjaw]

Oh ok,

So you are mad because they are lazy.

Here I thought you were mad because they were hungry.

[bigchillcar]

best thing to 'kickstart' an actor's career who's fading from the public image is to get arrested or land in the betty ford clinic..or join the scientology phenom..lol.

btw, plenty of great work out there for everyone..

[Hugh R]

I didn't say I'm mad, I just feel that people on the government dole aren't getting lifted out of their situation. In fact, I think it exacerbates the problem by giving them a disincentive to lift them out of their situation. I abruptly lost a good paying job about 7 years ago, and my first thought wasn't "Gee, I can now go collect government x, y & z". It was I gotta get hustling and find other work. Perhaps its because government x, y & z programs wouldn't come close to paying my mortgate, car loans, etc. But I believe for many people who don't have much, those programs are enough to allow them to survive, but barely. I for one don't know anyone who was totally dependent on the government dole who got off it and became totally self sufficient. Do you? In my old neighborhood, where I bought my starter house, I ran across lots of people on government dole. While I was working full time and going to school at night, many, many people in the neighborhood who didn't work, were outside drinking, and partying until 3AM. Please notice that I didn't say "all" people in the neighborhood.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by Hugh R
Actually, I used to when I bought my first house in Los Angeles, not a good neighborhood off of Interstate 10 and Washington Blvd for those of you who live in LA. And in the last year or so, pre and post-Katrina, I've run across lots of them in New Orleans and the area about 75 miles in radius from there, mostly to the southwest of New Orleans. People who have just enough gov't assistance to not spur them into getting a job.

Yeah, they sure do have the life, don't they?

[Hugh R]

CC name one person who you know personally who was totally dependent on government dole and lifted them out of that situation to become self sufficient. Or better yet, cite me examples in either government reports or charitable organizations reports of the masses of people lifted out of poverty and subsistance living and where turned into self sufficient members of society. After 50 years of these programs and several Trillion dollars in aid, have they really worked?

BTW, my first place was a duplex, and my renter was an absolute pig and had lots of roaches. I kept my place very clean with no food residue and a little boric acid here and there where I saw a roach and almost never saw them. Like any animal, they go where the food is.

[cool_chick]

Hugh, I don't know people on welfare. I just know those who do around here live pretty crapily (is that a word? LOL).

And I'm sure many, many people do get off it.