F-1 in one hour.

[Jims5543]

On CBS

Now we can find out where the steering wheel is on an F-1 car.

Hoping for a fun race.

[onewhippedpuppy]

On networks no less, what a shock. Real racing on TV! Nice to see that everybody isn't busy trying to kiss up to the rednecks.

[Rodeo]

Not expecting much from the CBS f1 team. Speed is broadcasting it, I think next week sometime.

Shuie on pole at Ferrari's home race! And maybe Rubens finally got his car dialed in.

The lackluster qualifying of McLaren and Renault has me preplexed ... I guess they are running heavy, figuring Ferrari would go light to get the pole at home ...

[Noah930]

Good race, actually. Who's the idiot broadcaster they found (not Derek Daly)?

[Jims5543]

Coverage was wprse than expected. For a while there we got to see 2 laps and watch commercials for 2 laps over and over again.

It was not until the end that they stayed with the race for more than 2 laps.

Yes, that announcer was in over his head. I wish they would use the speed announcers. The Camera work was bad too.


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[ted]

Originally posted by Noah930
Good race, actually. Who's the idiot broadcaster they found (not Derek Daly)?

Honestly the banter between the two was far from technical. The other guy Sheenan? tripped on his tongue as the MS and Alonso passed Klein. Sounded like Sheenan was yelling ...the wieners? my wife thought he said race meters, even race winners is stupid as most races only have on winner. I think he meant leaders?
Sheenan also meantion the fascinating fact that all 3 left hander tracks start with the letter I.
It felt like they were not even at the event, like a couple of guys just watching it on TV while chugging red bull.

So Alfonso raced a good race to keep ahead of 2nd and 3rd in the points race. Wonder if the Massa vs Montoya battle was better?

[rhk109]

Yeah, the coverage sucked. They didn't even try to figure out why Michael was so slow after his first stop.

Daily did briefly venture into seemless shift transmissions. But no technical details.

And worst of all it was delayed so I couldn't keep up with the live timing on formula1.com.

[Jims5543]

Originally posted by rhk109
Yeah, the coverage sucked. They didn't even try to figure out why Michael was so slow after his first stop.

They were clueless. It was obvious MS was having problems and way off the pace he should have been on at that point. When Alonso is lapping 1.3 seconds a lap faster there is a problem.


Did you see now much front wing they added to MS car during his last pitstop. Even then it seemed like he was struggling for about 10 more laps, then suddenly he took off and strted to get a rythem again.

All of this is happening and the announcers are oblivious.

I cried when I heard them announce they are covering Monoco.

[Ronbo]

They also failed to show the drivers receiving their trophies and the traditional champaigne spraying. They cut to a couple of quick interviews after the German national anthem was played on the podium.

Regarding the camera work I think the FIA provides a worldwide television feed, so that's beyond their control.

[pwd72s]

Where's the driving skill? It all seemed like a game of follow the leader to me. But, racing is racing, and since NASCAR was last night, I tuned in.

[Flatbutt1]

Opinions please....was it Jensen's loliipop handler's fault or the fuel man's fault?

I'm thinking the lollipop handler screwed the pooch by flipping it over prior to the fuel nozzle removal.

[Noah930]

Where's the driving skill?

I dunno, Michael holding off Alonso despite having a clearly inferior car (slower by 1.2 - 1.3 sec per lap) for the entire second half of the race--that's not just luck.

And for Button: lollipop man's fault, all the way. He's not supposed to lift the thing until all four corners are on and the refuelling team is clear.

[Rodeo]

I might be wrong, but I don't think even the Speed guys travel to the venues. I think they call the race from the feed. And do a heck of a lot better job than CBS did today

[bell]

f cbs.....i halfway through i muted the tv.
they spoke without commas....meaning halfway through a comment they'd switch the subject.....morons.....poor brodcasting, not even figuring in their lack of F1 knowledge.

[bell]

and rodeo......speed sends a single broadcaster (hobbs or windsor?....i forget) to the venues with a skeleton crew, which is how they interact pre-race on the grid......i believe this is the first year they've done that (not counting the close to us races)

[legion]

I fell asleep about ten minutes into the race. I couldn't stand the comentary nor the camera work. Who won?

[pwd72s]

Apologies guys...I was 100% tongue in cheek with the above post. Really, I do believe that the F-1 lads are indeed the world's best driving talent. Since I don't have cable or dish, I was glad to see the See-BS coverage. As poor as it may have been, at least I saw a bit of F-1. I do wish the track was one that allowed more passing opportunities though...You know, less fuel strategy, more driving?

[ted]

Originally posted by Noah930
And for Button: lollipop man's fault, all the way. He's not supposed to lift the thing until all four corners are on and the refueling team is clear.

I dunno how each team does it, maybe the sign man gets a wave or radio call from someone else and changes the sign to green and off the car goes.
But clearly it was too early.
But to correct himself the sign guy drops the sign down again but with the green side to the driver? He should of at least displayed the red side.
Oh yeah not sure if that was a good technique to then drag the sign the length of the nose and ram it into (decapitate) the driver's visor. Scratched visor? I bet Button was looking for a visor tear off after that.

So last race "oh no Ide" #ock blocked Barrichello this time he rams Albers on the first lap. What a disgrace and expense to bring those guys out and do so poorly. I know it was a generous effort to keep them racing but it's gone terrible bad for that team.

At the link below you can read here more of what the CBS guys don't know.

F1 recap.

[dd74]

I think viewers should applaud CBS for broadcasting the race in America - at least someone out there believes NASCAR isn't the be-all and end-all to auto racing in this country. Plus, it gives people without a dish or cable the opportunity to see an entirely different form of racing with arguably one of the greatest drivers of all time (Shuie). The NASCAR boys are good, but Shuie is like the Michael Jordan of F1. I couldn't believe that stat about he potentially being worth a billion dollars once he retires.

The commentary was layman stuff - an intro to the unindoctrinated into the sport, which I think worked very well. You had the sort of milquetoast American who's sort of gah-gah over the speed, noise and violence of F1 racing, and the old pro (Daly, right?), speaking with his great accent as he spoke tech-speak.

He did go into some detail about the seamless transmission, saying all that anyone really knows about it, which is Ferrari will have it and no one else.

Oh, and the Ferrari V8 is more powerful than the Renault - MS fought off Alonso even as he went wide and apexed deep. That was because of the F-car's V8 power.

All-in-all, a good race, and great for the American racing fans.

[pwd72s]

One thing I noticed...the "stop"side of the paddle held in front of the driver was a convex mirror for the Ferrari team. I suspect this was so the driver could see if the fuel nozzle was out before taking off? Sweating the details is good. Especially at that level of competition.